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2024 Monaco GP: Post Race Analysis

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  1. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

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    Monaco is nearly always a horrendous snooze fest, but this might have been the worst race ever. A crazy start in lap one, lots of carnage which results in a Red Flag. I think it's crazy F1 officials erase all that happened on lap 1 to restart the race as per grid position, minus 4 cars. But that's F1 for you. After that it was 77 laps of follow the leader that thank godness for fast forward as there might have only been 15 laps worth watching in the entire race. Drivers were literally trying to drive slower. That is NOT racing.

    Ferrari win. That's fantastic. Charles 100% deserves a Monaco victory. It's extra special to witness all his emotions as this was truly a crown jewel for him. He's proven to be a bit of a master around Monaco but some bad luck and some bad strategies have cost him in the past. Carlos could only follow, but we found entertainment in his strategy thoughts throughout the race.

    McLaren follow the leader, nowhere to go. Strong race, 2nd best car.

    Mercedes was the start of a new train. First car on mediums they chose to go slower than those on hard tires. Almost looked like a strategy blunder by pitting Hamilton and not telling him to push, which allowed Max to push and keep position, but left Russell vulnerable to a late attack. But despite Max being in a better car, being a better driver, and having MUCH fresher tires, there was really no risk of passing. Lame!

    Red Bull definitely didn't have the best car but likely had strong race pace. Not that we'd ever get to see it. Follow the leader, nowhere to go. Max pushed for 1 lap after Hamilton pitted, and that was the entirety of his race. Perez got hosed, even in a fast car he was never likely to score points. The damage bill for them will be enormous though.

    RB Visa was not a follow the leader deal either. Yuki must have made it a goal to go as slow as humanly possible without getting passed. Good quali meant good points.

    Williams owe everything to Albon. A brilliant quali meant good points. Logan had the luxury of being able to drive 4 seconds below the limit and he still looked like a donkey out there.

    Alpine. Oh, Alpine. Gasly again had a magnificent quali that gave him points but was nearly destroyed in lap one by a brutal pass attempt by his teammate. Ocon has to be the worst teammate. He has plenty of speed but is horrible at wheel to wheel racing and flat out being a jerk to his teammates. Very very strong words from the team boss.

    Aston Martin. After another strangely dismal quali performance by Alonso which let Stroll start ahead, Alonso was forced to create a gap to allow Stroll a pitstop. Why? Because even driving 4 seconds off the pace Stroll was not able to manage his tires. In a poetic justice Stroll shows how awful he is and drives himself into a wall in clean air with no pressure and ruins his race. What a clown.

    Sauber had the worst car and it didn't matter. Follow the leader with nowhere to go.

    Haas. A lot of people said after Miami that Magnussen is a dangerous driver and he definitely proved that today. What a brain dead move. He barely has his front wing along Perez heading up the snaking Rivage. Absolutely should have backed out of it, instead he didn't and destroyed 3 cars. How on earth he avoided penalty is beyond me.

    Driver of the Day: Nobody. No driver really drove like a race car driver. If one had to pic, then I guess Leclerc. Charles had track position and controlled the race to his advantage.
     
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  2. LEC won.

    HAM seventh.

    Nuff said.
     
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  3. Mark(study)

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    Better story - Newey left Red Bull 3 races ago and Max has lost two of the last 3 races. Read - "old story, Newey gets a cold and the wheels fall off Red Bull's dominate car".
     
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  4. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The officials had no choice in the matter; those are the rules for restart after a Red Flag.

    Cars will restart in the positions they were in, ONE LAP before the Red Flag is waved.
    Since not even one lap had been covered, the cars were put in their order on the grid.
     
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  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The stewards must have taken the same view I did and decided the responsability was shared 50/50 with Perez.
    The footage clearly show that Perez definitely drifted right as Kmag was attempting to pass him, squeezing him against the wall, and making contact unavoidable.
    Why Perez did that? Probably he saw Hulkenberg coming on his left, but failed to check his right mirror.
    It's usually the mistake you guys like to blame Stroll for, no ? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
    Why Perez seemed to slow down so suddenly ? Usually Red Bull are out of reach of Haas on speed.
     
  6. rotaryrocket7

    rotaryrocket7 Formula Junior

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    Good write up! It wasn’t racing…tire management is so boring. They need to bring back refueling, give options for more strategy.

    can’t tell me it’s unsafe, Indycar manages to refuel every race and I can’t remember the last time there was an issue
     
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  7. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Not in the middle of a town and in cramped pits like Monaco !!!
     
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    F2 speeds ...wtf.:rolleyes:
     
  9. Jack-the-lad

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    No, less “strategy,” more driving.
     
  10. DeSoto

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    Well, back in the day they also refueled at Monaco.

    They´ve banned refueling for engine efficiency, not for safety concerns.
     
  11. Giallo 550

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    My interpretation of the events is that Perez looked into his mirror to the right, saw that Magnussen was too far back to successfully execute anything, and vastly underestimated Magnussen’s ability to drive like an *** hole, thus, pulling to the right when Hulkenberg was coming on the left. You can’t fit three pounds of baloney in a two pound bag, as they say.
     
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  12. 375+

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    +1 Agree once he puts the helmet on he becomes a criminal.

    Agree that blame was 50/50 Perez and KMag. SKY reviewed the footage and Perez checked his right mirror twice after exiting Sainte-Devote.
     
  13. Texas Forever

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    Texas!
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  14. Jo Sta7

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    It’s awful. Iconic place but the cars have gotten too big. Doesn’t need to be on the calendar anymore. It’s not a race.
     
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    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Don't blame Monaco for the race yesterday.

    Blame THE RULES.
     
  16. TonyL

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    Makes perfect sense to me, why not restart with a full grid minus the cars that couldnt be repaired. Sainz only had a puncture!!
     
  17. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

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    F1 cars outgrew this track in the late 1960's...............it has buckets loads of nostalgia but zero entertainment value.
     
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  18. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Back in the days, really ... :rolleyes:
    Now, in 2024, we have safety concerns.
    Do you really want to go back to the bad old habits of the past ? o_O
    Beside, the hybrid system everyone seems to loathe on this forum, has allowed F1 cars to start a GP with half the fuel.
     
  19. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    The tire rules are a fake way to get the races more interesting. In this case, it came back to bite them.
     
  20. SS454

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    Upon further review, it does look like Perez was farther to the right than any car ahead at the point of impact. This does suggest a squeeze play. I think Kmag wasn't nearly far enough along side to warrant being given room on a part of the track that was inevitably going to close. 50 meters ahead and every car ahead of them was right against the right side wall. Perhaps a penalty wasn't deserved.
     
  21. SS454

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    In 2024 refueling is allowed in pretty every other major racing series. How many deaths or injuries have occurred because of this?

    There is zero reason why F1 can't invest in safer, standardized refueling rigs with several redundancies to prevent infernos.
     
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  22. TonyL

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    100%, I have argued this point many times, strategy and all the other nonsense just dilutes the race from one man and one machine going flat out to win, without a load of boffins in the background keeping the car going....or am I just to old :)
     
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  23. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    There is zero reason why F1 need to re-untroduce refuelling.

    Can you name one?
     
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  24. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 World Champ
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    allow more tire choices and no mandatory tire switching.
    all that tech and it comes down to “switching on the tires”.
    “saving tires”:rolleyes:
    or
    have more mandatory tire switching. minimum 3 tire changes with more tire choices?
    and get rid of the batteries! they served their innovative purposes for tranferring tech to road use.
     
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  25. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

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    Different race strategies
    Faster race pace
    Less fuel and tire management
    More excitement

    That was easy.
     
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