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Well, do your homework first and then you can talk about it.

 

Correct, every rule introduced since 1988 has simply made the racing worse.

Where good racing is defined as any of the top 10 cars on the grid have a statistical chance of winning.
When was the last time we had that property ??

 

Rather than encouraging the slower teams to do better, the FIA has stupidly worked to make the faster teams slower. Every one of their attempts to "improve" racing has had the opposite effect. Time to throw out all rules and regulations and start F1 from scratch.

Open testing. Anyone who wants to field a car can try to make the grid. No sprint races. No DRS. Make each FP session 90 minutes. In FP 1 and FP 2, entries above the fastest 20 are eliminated, the top 20 cars go to FP 3 and qualifying. The others sit on the sidelines. Have a choice of 3 different engine designs with an equivelency formula, set the wheel and tire size but let everyone get their own tires from whomever they chose, have rules on car dimensions and weght, design limits on aero devices attached to and not part of the car's basic chasis and body, no carbon brakes, no in car radios (when the driver leaves the pits he is on his own). If a team can't make it to the overseas tracks but is competitive on the European circuts, that's tough. Let all teams pay for their own transportation, and take those currents costs from the FIA and give the money to the teams.

Make it hairy and scary.

 

This would be most easily achieved by half of the cars going around the circuit clockwise while the other half goes around counter-clockwise.

 

However my guess was not more wrong than some allegedly educated claims - so I'm not the only one talking without doing the homework, maybe I'm just the one admitting it
No team is currently getting 10% of the total shared revenue (the closest are Aston Martin with 10.4% and Alpine with 9.6%), and the last is only getting 6%. So assuming that with 11 teams the last would also get 6%, with an added team the 10 existing ones would change from sharing 100% of the money to sharing 94% of the money, and not 90%.
Some source tell that these 6% represent $60 millions (1 billion of the F1 revenue going to the teams), so (assuming constant revenue and the last team still getting 6% in spite of the increased number of teams) one could compute the money to compensate for a number of years - 300 millions would compensate for 5 years for instance.

 

Hi Michael lol —


FIA's Ben Sulayem advises Andretti to "buy another F1 team"
FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem has changed his stance on admitting Andretti Cadillac to Formula 1, advising Andretti to "go and buy another team".

 

Sometimes I wonder if Ben Sulayem "has light at each floor" !

Does he knows that Andretti refused buying a team when one was available ?

Does he know if one team is for sale now ?

 

Why is MBS advising Andretti to "buy another team?" IF Andretti wants to come into F1 as the 11th team then let Andretti hurdle whatever obstacles he needs to come into F1 but nonetheless let Andretti be the 11th team on the F1 grid.

 

MBS must by now know that an entry as an 11th team isn't an option.
Liberty (FOM) and the teams are dead against it.

 

I know. I don't know why other than it splits the money pie even more for an 11th team entry.

 

Maybe the real issue is not sharing the money between 11 instead of 10 teams, it's more about the valuation of the teams (specially the smaller, less performing ones).
We read hypothetical valuations of many hundreds of millions for the failing teams - but if one could get in with a new team created from scratch, these back-grid teams would become completely worthless. So for sure they cannot be happy with the idea; and neither could Audi, that would have paid some money for a worthless Sauber.

 

That's exactly what it is. If there are only 10 teams and no path for an 11th, all of the teams will be valued much higher. I'm sure this is what Haas is holding out for - the path to an 11th team being clearly blocked so his team's value rockets up - as they certainly aren't in it to win. There is definitely precedent in US sports for this with franchises and expansion only occurring when the sport deems it able to support and not anyone being able to come in and start a new team. The only difference is that F1 actually spelled out a way for a new team to join but are then blocking it anyway.

 

Everything has a price. I am sure there would be a team available if Andretti would want to pay the current price. Maybe he should go into partnership with Haas? Haas will never win a race in their current form. They're lucky when they score any points. The car is just a rolling billboard that is a right-off for Gene Haas.

 

I wonder if MBS has an eye on his campaign to be re-elected in December with this pronouncement...

 

Andretti could not provide 5 yrs funding as the Sauber owners requested. So they did not sell to Andretti. He was lacking funds. Wanted a fast sale but lacked longevity funding Sauber insisted on so the team had a future. Andretti and his backers were hoping for a quick sale and a major value increase. Did not happen as he is not as well funded as some think he is. So does that also make sense as to why he is pushing for the 200mil buy in vs 600mil$ -- I think so.

 

If you think you can start a team from scratch and bring it to be mildly competitive without spending hundreds of millions, you are really mislead. When asked how much it could cost to set up a team like Mercedes from scratch, the AUDI CEO estimated "No less than a $1Billion", and that was in 2015 !!!
Sauber wasn't wortless, it's a team that has among the best facilities in the business. Its problem has always been to attract racing engineers and technicians of high caliber because of its isolation in Switzerland. Its location is far from the F1 Silicone Valley in England or the attraction of Maranello.

 

Buy another team, shut it down, build Andretti cars and race them under the previous bought name for one year.

Its bound to be cheaper than vying for a 11th team.

 

Yes, but do you know a team for sale ?

 

well, Gene Haas announced today he's shutting down his NASCAR team (co-owned with Tony Stewart)....

 

What a NASCAR team has to to with F1 ?

 

Same owner. If he's tired of losing in NASCAR, he may be tired of losing in F1.

 

And at 71, he might be getting tired....

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and/or burning cash

 

May as well elect an ornament, MBS has been useless.

 

So the timing of FIA advice to Andretti is interesting lol