LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

The ARM is even quicker on track, but the normal Valkyrie is already wickedly quick. The Modificata you mentioned is a track only car and the slicks alone make a huge difference. We are not talking about track only cars though.

Reliability is a matter of debugging, but I don't see how it doesn't meet performance promises. At any rate, it is muck quicker and more technically impressive than the T50.

 

If they want to go make the ultimate drivers car, they should. If they want to make the ultimate track monster that will decimate all, they should.

What they should not do is compromise one by incorporating elements of the other. While I would prefer to see an incredible driver's car I can daydream about owning one day, like the T50, I wouldn't mind seeing this car destroy a bunch of track records.

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Why its not even road legal in some countries

 

T50 also.


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Interesting comment. While I do not dispute that the Valkyrie is technically impressive, it is hard to swallow that it is more so than the T.50.
They serve different purposes and are hard to compare.

 

the engineering of the Valk is incredible, the t50 also but the t50 is designed to be essentially a fun pursists car whereas the Valk is cutting edge performance

the new ferrari hypercar will have to be a track focused monster as there's nowhere else for them to go to distinguish themselves now straight line performance is nuts and relatively cheap

 

Great comment.

 

What is this!? New Icona?

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Guessing F173M the SF90 facelift we’re suppose to see next year but the body seems to be a substantially upgraded. Looking forward to it as I always struggled with the SF90’s design.


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Sf90 modificata

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C7MeqWZqIEH/?igsh=MTBtcHR2bmE4bmIxOA==

 

Not too sure about it being SF90M. Almost no rear diffuser and the frontal area is very different, almost old fashioned. Plus, the rear has some sort of aero like a scaled down FXXK with winglets on the sides. I don’t think this would be the route for an SF90M. Also, the dash top is totally different from the SF90. It’s very expensive to change the dash architecture - that would be a completely new model rather than an M. If they were going to do an F40 Icona which was a rumour a few years ago, the SF90 is maybe the ideal platform?

 

SF90M is meant to be a full face lift model

 

I love the 288 style shape they gave the front cladding!

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F250 allocations being discussed this month…

 

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/ferrari-spied-laferrari-replacement-f250-hypercar-packs-twin-turbo-v6-234871.html

V6 Twin turbo doesn't sound too appealing. Enzo is rolling over again and again.

 

Doubtful, not sure he would care. Heck I barely remember the last time I saw a Ferrari V12 win a F1 or Le Mans/major endurance race.

A racer may love a particular engine configuration but at the end of the day you build to the regulations. Doubtful he could relate to a clientele that believe a Ferrari V6 turbo engine is beneath them.


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Between us, let's be clear and speak frankly, even if the engineers have worked well and produced the maximum power, it is clear that the engine configuration has no nobility and does not make you dream. Let's not tell ourselves a story
we know very well that it is the basis of this engine, and it has nothing to do with the jewel that is the V12 of the Valkyrie or the T50....

 

Exactly. A Tesla Plaid will destroy damn near every Ferrari ever made in a straight line. That doesn't mean it has any soul. A Ferrari is supposed to evoke emotion! Or at least it was supposed to at one point...

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Who said that F250 won't evoke emotions? The other hybrids in the range do.

 

It might to some people, but I think I, along with many others, would get a lot more emotion out of a T50. While I am certainly not in the financial bracket for this car, I don't see myself obsessing over a hybrid v6tt of any trim level. To be completely honest, each new Ferrari model has evoked less and less emotion in me between their sounds and designs, which is concerning considering I'm one of the younger people here. There will always be people who get excited over the latest and greatest technology, but I am not one of them.

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Lets prey that design is out of this world… this is the only hope left for this hypercar…


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Definitely. I'd love to see them knock it out of the park with the design. I felt they did a good job with the LaFerrari. After seeing the 12c though I'm a bit apprehensive on being excited for it. We shall see.

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Ferrari made such a car 30 years ago (the F50). They can't be left behind in the performance stakes. Now, if you referenced the Valkyrie it would be a different story.