C8 ZR1

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are you first first, orrr #19 first ............ what's the adm on a ZR1?
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Congrats

 

Very cool but I am still unsure what the ZR1 will have for a drivetrain. Really hoping it's AWD WITHOUT any hybridization.

 

my understanding is that its very similar to the z06, maybe a bit more lux, powertrain is recued to be the z06 motor with twin turbos and 850 hp.
Similar conceptually to what we saw from the c6 to c7 Zr1. Between the rear weight bias and nannies dont think awd is needed and if theyre not using electrics on the front axle it would mean designing a drivetrain for this limited model, so not gonna be awd. However the Zora is rumored to be essentially the Zr1 with the erey electrics to the front wheels, viola 1000+hp, awd mega supercar.

Vette to me looks like this.

Stingray under 100k, Gt car, comfy and fast.
E rey prob 100-125k, Gt car, awd comfy, and fast as a z06 or faster up to 100mph with instant tq and immediate throttle response everywhere.
z06 125-175 k not so much low down tq, harder edgier, treading a line between street use and track ability, might become tiring for many used to a more traditional vette. The vette version of a Gt3.
Zr1, 150-200k Ultimate road vette that will probably also lay down the best single laptime. Will prob come in a road and track biased version. the vetet version of a P car TurboS and Gt2.
Zora, that's going to be 200K+, 1000hp awd, pretty much everything, prob too heavy to be atrack car and not intended that way. the vette version of a Ferrari sf90 or Bugatti Veyron.

You makes your choices and pays your money. Something there for moist tastes. Once theyre all out I expect the platform as with prior vettes to last a good while, Ver 2.0 of the above will be interesting. Z06 can become more track biased. And yes maybe the pushrod v8 goes away and the e-rey uses a version of the z06 motor. All depends on sustaining demand and what the traffic will bear pricewise.

if youre selling 25K vettes for a decade, thats a lot of vettes, gotta keep it interesting.

 

.... and Grand Sport? or E-Ray instead? between Stingray and Z06. A fast Stingray. Cheaper than Z06.
this doesn't show E-Ray model.

https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2022/06/08/heres-what-the-c8-corvette-grand-sport-should-be/

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Grandsport=E-rey.
LT2 Hybrid 600hp.

The bloggers desire for a 6.8 LT3 at 500-550hp, maybe an idea at under 100k with z06 bodywork. Doesen't seem Gm is going that way though.
Regular stingray approaching 500hp and more trackable suspension maybe in ver 2.0

In the days of the 91 Zr1 with lotus quad cam motor Gm made a test version of the C4 with a 454. It was lighter and faster than the then Zr1. Quad cam motors tend to be heavy due to the heads and valvetrain. But a ,motor with a broad powerband as we see with cammers can work better on track where they can be kept up in revs and still have a 4k rpm powerband with less shifting needed in the wrong places like corners when a 2v motor may simply run out of revs.

The other way to go is supercharging as in the Camaro who's motor makes gobs of power everywhere from 3-6.5k rpm, but then you have a heavier motor and and lots of additional weight for all the attendant cooling it needs, plus getting that type of cooling airflow is harder still in a ME car.

Still I can see a near 500hp 2 valve SBC in a better handling(than stingray) vette, and the z06 free to get rid of the trunk, do a s duct and chase 700hp with 300lbs less weight. All is possible, but not for now.

 

bump

I know there have been some recent ZR1 posts in the Z06 thread.

https://www.motor1.com/news/715647/chevrolet-corvette-zr1-c8-confirmed/

The Corvette ZR1 Will Debut This Summer


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I like the Pista hood better. Hopefully, we will get more info quickly versus drawing it out over the summer. A couple well-known sales people have stated that more news may be available tomorrow but I seriously doubt it. I want to find out the TQ number as that is the most disappointing part of the FPC Z06.

 

Could just be the different angle of the pics, but possibly were looking at an active aero rear wing. Really hoping some of this aero wing/venetd hood migrates to the z06 for a true track work car.

Imo given top spec z06 pricing in the 160s were looking at the first +$200k factory vette in the zr1.

 

Zora maybe, but publications are saying LIST price well under. Secondary market? +$100k

 

Can’t wait to see this thing revealed. I don’t even know if I want one but I’d imagine if a Zora is the desired target it’s a must order. For that reason I’ll probably order it.

 

I'll bet a slightly used one will go for well over 1ook premium, at least short term - wish I had gotten in the queue early on.

I'm more than satisfied my z06, but I wouldn't mind buying and flipping a zr1 for a huge profit. Problem is I lack the self discipline to execute the flipping part.

 

The issue now appears to be that the official reveal may not happen until later in 2024 which is disappointing. The recent video release a couple weeks ago got everyone excited but the NCM Bash meet last week makes it appear that the actual reveal maybe much later than thought.

 

You can always count on MotorTrend to get it wrong...
Like their (MT) dyno test of the 2020 Stingray proclaiming GM had underrated the HP and it was actually close to 600...

Chevy Teases 2025 Corvette ZR1, the Turbocharged American Supercar (motortrend.com)

 

Now that you think about it a Z06 setup with added E-Ray motors makes a lot of sense for a ZR1 and getting over 800ponies. That would leave the supposed Zora (which we have never had something eclipse the ZR1 previously) with the ZR1 set up with added turbos to going over the 1000hp barrier. But if they want to go with turbos first and then add electric, the results would not be as impressive. If you're going to make a Zora its got to be a bigger leap that the Z06 to ZR1. And it cannot be an electric adder with Zora's name on it. We will soon see. My big hope is that they bring some sexy back in the looks dept. This thing is sorely lacking.

 

^^^
As far as styling goes, I have never been a fan of the C8 (any variant)...but I have one.
When I look at pics of at my 2014 C7 convertible, it's just a much prettier car than any C8. That said, the C8 is a huge leap forward...as a sports car. I hope the new styling director (Simcoe) will tame some (all) of the creases on the C9.

As far as the ZR1, I'm pretty certain that it will be a non-hybrid, TT LT6 (LT7). MotorTrend's math doesn't work (900HP claim) as an LT6/ERay front motor would 830HP with no forced induction. Now, turbocharge the LT6 and assuming you're using more that 4 pounds of boost (!), you got WAY more than 900 HP (with the electric motor).
The "Zora" (electric front motor and LT7 and active aero) will be the end of the C8, probably appearing in 4 years, with a one year run, and then the C9.

All of the above is my opinion and worth what you paid for it..

 

New tease

The 2026 Corvette ZR1 Will Have A Twin-Turbo Z06 Engine
https://www.motor1.com/news/721931/c8-corvette-zr1-engine-turbo-lt6/



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Don't want to judge before I hear it in person but that doesn't sound anywhere near as good as my ZO6.

 

I recently bought a 2024 Z06 and what a car !!!!!

 

2025 or 2026? My Z06 is going up for sale in anticipation of a 25

 

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Assuming (big if) that GM actually shows the car and specs in July, rather than another, but bigger, teaser, I think the car will be a late 2025. It would be great if they show THE car in July, as a great send off for Tadge Juechter (Corvette Executive Chief Engineer), who is retiring this summer.
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GM could, as they have done before, shorten the 2025 model year to April/May 2025 and start making 2026's, including the ZR1.
In other words...I have NO idea but I DO have lots of WAG's!!

 

Hoping for much sooner than that as we are selling the Z06 soon.