Lusso T owners/drivers: what do you think of the car (driving exp., reliability, …)?

@sunshine 1

already owning a 2020 v12 812 superfast , i convinced myself , just as you are that the T would be the best idea .

already have a v12 to excersize that thrill muscle
V8 same absolute performance
no PTU issues etc
more low down torque making it more suitable as a daily .

all of the the above is incontrovertibly true .

i bought a super low mileage (1,100 ) extremely loaded stunning 2019 T , in grigio titanio .

i absolutely loved it and kicked myself for overlooking the Lusso when they were new.

i even paid the dealer some $6k to have Apple CarPlay fitted .

this was summer 2023 and the price differential was in fact less between the v8 and v12 than it is today . probably 20-30k vs probably more like $50k today for similar mileage examples .

there were more recent (2019 which has a lot of extra as standard like blind spot monitoring etc ) models in the T.

my only “ complaint “ was that the v8 was a little rough / uneven at idle which apparently is pretty standard for that block and v8s in general .

i used it daily and loved it but nagging away at the back of my mind was the extra “ thrill /fun” the sound of the sweet v12 would be .

eventually after perhaps 9 months after scouring the classifieds daily i found a 4.5k miles , high specification V12 and paid the “ upgrade “ charge .

one of the best automotive decisions i have ever made .

love the v12 .

the miles per gallon may be much worse but the smiles per mile more than make up for it for me .

so much so i realized i was no longer bothering to drive the Superfast so sold it .

the V12 has a sweet smooth idle , it’s steering is yes “ heavier “ but actually prefer that as makes the car feel more planted as does the 4WD under heavy acceleration .
the v8 would be a little more twitchy with the 600HP going through just the rear wheels and again that was another reason i decided to part with the Superfast , 789 Hp through the back wheels .

the v12 Lusso extremely sure footed .

PTU issues aside ( i have had none yet) i think both cars have been demonstrated to be reliable in absolute terms .

the V8 is a beauty for sure and you would enjoy but you may , like me , start wondering “ if wish i had bought the v12”.

i love the V12 AND the overall Lusso so much i intend to snag another low mileage one as “ back up “ so i have another one to use as the miles on the first creep up and i am pretty certain i am going to prefer the v12 Lusso to the Purosangue i have on order, when it comes , and for sure , there aren’t any more being made .

i think in either case you will be ok value wise as it seems the v8s have fallen even further making them distinctly “cheap “ and great value whereas it appears the v12 Lusso fan club is growing and if anything late low mileage good spec examples have been gently increasing in value over the last six months .

it may do the exact opposite , but i hope this helps …

Cheers





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Ferrari 4 cylinder, V6, V8, V8 turbo all wonderful Ferrari choices but never deny yourself the
V12 experience if it presents itself.

 

Many times I’ve been ridiculed by 458, 488, and Porsche owners over my FF, it’s ugly , it’s a 2+2, it depreciates,
My retort its a Ferrari V12 , that ends it.

 

Life's too short to compromise. Get the V12, buy an extended warranty if you're worried about the PTU.

 

I wouldn’t hesitate to get an FF. I got one about 6 weeks ago and I absolutely love it.

Yeah the ptu grenade can/will go off but honestly that just does not bother me at all but ymmv. The fix isn’t crazy expensive now. If you find a car with cpo or a replaced ptu great but it wouldn’t be a dealbreaker for me.

Market is also softening so there is value out there.


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I got my Lusso because I needed more seats for the school run. I knew I would love it. I didn't know how much I would love it. The V12 is indescribable. I've had it for a year, drive it almost every day, and it's still an emotional experience every time I get behind the wheel.

The Lusso T is an outstanding choice in its own right. If you already had a V12 in your garage, I think your arguments for the V8 could make sense.

But if this would be the only V12 Ferrari in your stable and if you have the means, that engine really is worth the higher price and potential headache.

 

Remember when looking for your next Ferrari, FF, Lusso, Portofino,California T, The elephant in the room financially
is the DCT gearbox up to $ 30.000, and very few independent shops in South Florida are up to the task even if they
have access to the parts and software .

 

I bought a 2018 Lusso T last July and I've put about 2000 miles on it. I drove it down to Bend, OR from Seattle for the FCA Annual Experience and did a lot of the day drives, as well as the track. I've driven it on day-long excursions as well just out to dinner or to pick up some treats. I have a 2-year-old and she loves riding in it. Either way you go--V12 or V8--you'll find it to be a fantastic car. If you like to go on roadtrips, and you want to do that in a Ferrari, the Lusso/FF cannot be topped.

I chose the V8 because I wanted less maintenance, better gas mileage, and an all-around better daily experience. I was also able to get a way better spec for my budget than I would have with a V12 (CarPlay, suspension lifter, pano roof, etc). I will never push the V8 or the V12 to its limits, performance-wise. I barely get the chance to go above 70mph. But when I do need to go fast, it goes fast. I discovered that the car can easily get to 140mph without realizing it when I passed a truck on a vast straight highway in eastern Washington.

I put on the Capristo exhaust valve bypass thingamajig to get a better sound out of the V8, and it's nice to be able to turn that off when I'm just cruising in 7th gear.

The only bad thing about owning the V8 instead of the V12 is all the people who say you should have gotten the V12....

 

1000%

 

V12 comments made by good natured Ferrari snobs, In truth our Ferrari history is so engulfed in F1, but Ferrari never
Raced in F1 with a V12

 

That's incorrect. Ferrari raced with a V12 in F1 in the first couple years of F1 in 1950 and 1951, as recently as 1989-1995, and off and on between. Many of the cars that weren't 12 cylinders were used during the 1.5 liter era or the turbo era. Some of the "V12s" in the 70s were what Ferrari calls 180° V12s (most of us would call that a flat 12), but the others were unambiguously V12s (I believe the final V12 in the 412 T2 was a 75° vee). Had F1 stuck with the 3.5 liter formula past 1994, I suspect Ferrari might have fielded V12s longer.

Regardless, I don't think the historical pedigree is why most V12 "snobs" love the engines (or at least it's not the only reason). The V12 is just magical. The sounds it makes, the way it delivers its power and torque, the buttery smoothness - it is hard to describe but easy to appreciate.

I have a V12 Lusso, and I have an F8, so a variant of each engine. They're both amazing. But if the V12 feels soulful, the TT V8 feels a bit clinical in comparison

This is not to say the Lusso T is anything but a great car. It's an amazing car! Anyone who tells you otherwise...I don't know what to say.

 

You are correct on both counts,

 

after owning the Lusso for a year now, it can best be explained as the v8 is like being in the front row of your favorite concert. the v12 feels like your playing lead guitar in the band!

 

I’m just now preparing and doing research for my first Ferrari purchase and looking at the FF or Lusso T, so this is actually my first comment / activity in the forum.

I was interested in something you said that as the miles creep up you’d start looking for a new low mileage model.

What sort of mileage are you talking about? I ask because on this forum I’ve heard people often say that a lot of miles is not a bad thing, as these cars do better when driven more. Is a well maintained model that has accrued many miles (that you know the maintenance status of as you own it) not better than a little used model?

I’m not trying to suggest that’s the case, just trying to piece information together

Thanks!


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good morning ,

my comment was nothing to do or not meant to suggest any reliability or besmirch the idea of a higher mileage vehicle . not at all . with the FSH and perhaps even eligibility for. extended warranty as a CPO car , would definitely be a good option . for me was just personal preference . my 2018 has 4k miles and i always find that regardless of age a sub 10k mile car always feels “ newer “ than a 20k plus mile example . Again, without trying to state the obvious they aren’t making any more of these, so my purchase is with the intent of keeping these cars for an extremely long time so a lower starting point with the miles IMHO fits well with that stated goal . i originally purchased a 2019 super hi spec v8 with just 1,100 miles and it felt literally brand new . So perhaps how long you intend to keep the vehicle may be something you wish to consider

 

I see you all based in Miami , You are more than welcome to visit me in Jupiter and take the v12 For an extended test drive so that you can fully appreciate the symphony it produces. Just hit me up and we can arrange that easily