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Relocating to South East Florida, seeking FChat opinions, I come in peace

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  1. sampelligrino

    sampelligrino Formula 3

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    As title mentions, looking like I will relocate to South Florida and flying out next month to get a feel for the various areas, will be staying in Ft Lauderdale and then Coconut Grove as hubs with a rental car to explore

    Now lifestyle, budget, desired amenities etc all come into play but I'm hoping to learn from collective experience and different pros and cons from whoever feels friendly enough to chime in

    I come in peace, understand and appreciate what the state stands for, and plan to do whatever I can to keep it that way otherwise if it ends up becoming something else, it ruins the point of my move

    My interest is mainly Miami, in these areas: Coral Gables, Coconut Grove, Surfside, Bal Harbour, maybe mid or north beach areas as well since I'm originally from Hawaii and love the ocean

    Will also explore Ft Lauderdale, Manalapan/West Palm Beach

    I'm 34, just me with my dog living a blissful life happily with no wife or kids, will bring my Speciale, and plan to rent a home for a year before deciding where and what I want to buy

    Would love to be near vibrant communities, something very walkable is really wanted, if along waterways of some sort even better, and want something safe and secure where I don't have to worry about the Speciale in the garage and it being seen by neighbors coming and going

    My hunch is the Manalapan/WPB areas are better for being near water, being safe with the Ferrari etc, but worry it could be too quiet (good problem to have I know) versus something like Coral Gables or Coconut Grove which would offer a very different feel

    Any opinions are appreciated as I'm trying to collect a diversity of views on the different areas and their pros and cons, thanks very much
     
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  2. HotShoe

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    Welcome! What do you like to do for fun?

    Unless you are into clubs, overrated restaurants and being seen I’d avoid Miami like the plague. It’s overpriced, congested and full of some of the most superficial, shallow people you’ll ever meet. Oh and it floods any time it rains. :) If you hate insane traffic and or congestion pretty much all of Miami is out.

    If you are more laid back and into the ocean/outdoors I’d suggest looking into Jupiter, PGA Gardens maybe Stuart or Ocean Ridge. Manalapan and WPB are great too but you get less for your money and it’s getting crowded there too.

    Do you prefer being by the water or do you like to have some land?

    Need more specifics to give better advice.
     
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  3. sampelligrino

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    Great questions! Appreciate it

    Superficial and shallow people don't bother me in the least sadly to be honest, I'm coming from LA where I've been among them for quite some time and still kept my humility and head, but ok the flooding, see that is something I hope to learn about locals.. totally forgot to include figuring out what is safest for the Speciale with respect to that, and learning about what happens when hurricanes and flooding occur as someone who's never experienced that before, insurance and what that's like etc... I saw the horrific Naples flooding a year or 2 ago and the supercars that got destroyed (along with property)

    I'm focused on Miami because, while I hate clubs, I do enjoy the nice restaurants, vibrancy and energy of people my age, I'd go to Heat/Dolphins games, and just in general being closer to action than not, but I am very open minded and this is why I'll rent first before buying

    I love relaxing at the beach, jumping in the ocean, going on long walks with an audiobook in to get a sweat (if this is by water even better, but looking for sidewalks in the least... ha), going on a nice drive (so traffic is for sure a concern in Miami, but I'm thinking it won't hold a candle to LA's absolutely crippling backbreaking soul sucking traffic that I've grown accustom to)

    Writing it out, it does sound like I kind of want it all which I concede no place has, so it's trying to figure out what gets me closest in the "median" to all... rather than an extreme one way (like near/on water or beach, but very very quiet with not much else around, and vice versa, why I am not interested in Brickell/Downtown Miami/Edgewater where all the clubs/restaurants are, but no real beach, traffic would be terrible, and maybe not safe for Speciale)
     
  4. dm_n_stuff

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    Hey, come look at the mild side. West coast of FL. Some nice towns, fewer people (although that keeps changing) and generally less expensive.

    Either way, renting for a year is a solid plan, keep renting until you're 100% sure you like all that you see. If I had done that when I moved here, I'd have saved myself at least one buy/sell/buy cycle in home owning.

    Sister in Law lives in Ft. Lauderdale. She loves it, until she visits us and then she whines about how much nicer it is here. But we're all old farts, so that is gonna lend a different perspective. All I know is when I visit her, the traffic is hellish and the restaurants think they're all Michelin rated, based on their prices.

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  5. Scott98

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    You’re young. You want to be around the action. Give Miami a shot. Palm Beach and other places north will be a lot quieter (which is a good thing for other people). Just know the only nice drives you’re going to have will be early mornings on the weekends. Any other time and you will be in traffic.
     
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  6. fatbillybob

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    If I went to Fl it would be to fish and drive the SE racetracks. If you are there for a year you got to do some trackdays in FL. Sebring, Homestead, and daytona are all fantastic. 34y/o you got to be where the action is....Miami. If you marry the hottie you meet in miami then you move to Naples and play house.
     
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  7. bball16

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    For someone your age with your interests I’d also look in the Delray area.
     
  8. HotShoe

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    Copy that! Compared to LA Florida will feel like a paradise so you’ll probably be happy anywhere here if you haven’t shot yourself in the head from living in LA ;)

    Smart move to rent first as every area here has its nuances that can make or break it for you. Sounds like Bal Harbor, Aventura, Sunny isles might be what you are looking for. Ft. Lauderdale could also work by the beach but if you prefer to dine in Miami the little extra distance can be a deal breaker. Hell there are times it can take almost an hour to get from Aventura to the Design District. Like LA traffic is becoming a major problem.

    I’d also suggest looking around downtown Delray as suggested above. Lots of great local dining but it’s a more mellow crowd. Upside would be the beach life and traffic are much, much better. You can get a great place by the ocean for cheap and enjoy the beach/walks with less hassle than Miami. Much more opportunity to rent a nice beach house too. It also is safer for your car and less congested. You also don’t have to worry about Urban Weekend, Spring Break, etc.

    You certainly can use your car in Miami but it’s a major pain in the ass. The people I know there basically only drive it to a restaurant with roped parking and back. Randomly taking it to unknown spots is risky because there is always shady people near by. You definitely don’t want a lower level parking spot/garage and you should not head out if it’s going to rain hard. Search YouTube for all the flooding videos and you’ll see why. Prepare for some of the worst drivers in the entire country and high theft. My friend had his Rolls stolen twice.

    In short I’d say if you plan on going out to eat often and want the trendiest spots look towards Miami. If you’d rather spend more time walking, enjoying the beach and want a little more laid back dining look more north. You’re still young but IMO you’re right at the age where people usually decide they’ve had enough with the Miami nonsense and look elsewhere. It’s definitely fun but it gets old real quick.

    Oh, and be careful in Miami if you wear a nice watch. Lots of hot women there will go back to your place and drug you and rob you blind. :eek: Lol, if you do meet a woman there get a prenup! South Florida in general is full of gold diggers :D
     
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  9. vonbeeler

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    Las Olas Isles of Ft Lauderdale. At least twenty upscale restaurants all a short walk to the East and the beach with its own party vibe a short walk to the West. It’s all intracoastal waterways so you can keep your boat parked out back. Driving is decent without too much traffic.


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  10. GatorFL

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    Coral Gables or Coconut Grove will be perfect for you.
     
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  11. sampelligrino

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    Great input, advice, thoughts so far! Very much appreciated, thank you all
     
  12. sampelligrino

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    I'm torn because I am keenly aware of the cons of Miami, especially doing alright for myself with the Ferrari, and I am older than the lets club and party crowd. But also want to avoid somewhere that also feels too quiet, and not walkable with energy and people coming and going if that makes sense.. South Florida seems great because there are a few options to choose from

    A few friends have mentioned Delray as well, I've never heard of it before and people probably prefer it that way. I'll be combing as far north as West Palm Beach south through Coconut Grove and Coral Gables, adding Delray on the places to check out - thanks
     
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  13. sampelligrino

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    The more I think about it, the more I waver on Miami, understanding what it is and its pros and cons, and I'm not as young as I once was! I have more money, more success, and care a lot more about my peace and a leisure lifestyle than stressful things when I think about it. A water oriented lifestyle sure sounds nice, especially with the heat you guys have

    Maybe renting north could be the better move first, and worst case scenario I can always try a different part of town a year later. I'd rather err on safety, especially with the Ferrari, and doing my best to mind my own business and avoid trouble. I just don't to be in a suburb that is so quiet, and not walkable beyond the neighborhood then it's just highways and thoroughfares, I've done that before and regretted it because it is just me and my dog, so it's nice to interface or at least see other people walking around etc from time to time..

    Thankfully LA has trained me where I don't wear my nice watches out in public much anymore ha ha, and not to take a detour but I have no intention on jeopardizing my lifestyle or assets for anyone, for a very beautiful respectful woman whatever the case may be, I've worked too hard and sacrificed/risked too much where selfishly I just want to enjoy my life with my dog, my cars, travel, and maybe a boat one day..!
     
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  14. sampelligrino

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    Las Olas is on the list! A realtor I know out there said that would be a good place to check out given the lifestyle I'm looking for, and I do have a fantasy of one day owning a small boat.. first things first want to settle the move, understand the home insurance costs and safety of the Ferrari given hurricanes and flooding, and then if I have money I'd like to burn left plan to analyze the boat situation :)

    These are two I definitely plan to spend time in next month, maybe those neighborhoods will allow me to have a more relaxed and safer lifestyle while still within striking distance of the action in "Miami"
     
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  15. mkraft3003

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    I would make sure to go eat and drink at The Wine Room Kitchen & Bar as often as you can. :cool:
     
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  16. buddyg

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    My advice move to Naples, FL. West side is the best side!
     
  17. ryalex

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    Congrats on the move! Did you relocate your biz HQ too?
     
  18. buddyg

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    Closed the business and semi retired.
     
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  19. Shorn355

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    Check out Boca
     
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  20. sampelligrino

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    Looks incredible, might have to swing by for a beer and bite next month
     
  21. sampelligrino

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    Had a friend who relocated from Naples to Palm Beach area because he said it was just too quiet for him, my plan is "east side" first but Tampa/St Pete/Naples seem to offer a lot more for the money

    Interesting heard not so nice things about Boca which was funny to me considering it's in between WPB and Ft Lauderdale, and both seem very highly regarded, but I have family friends who have lived there a long time and plan to see them
     
  22. mkraft3003

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    Please do!!! The speakeasy is now Radcliffe’s speakeasy and supper club with a whole new menu. Added a lot more seating to the regular area too. If you need any reservation help just reach out.
     
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  23. sampelligrino

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    Right on!! Appreciate that
     
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  24. c5000

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    I would rent a waterfront condo in Miami and see if you like it. Check out Capri in South Beach. I think it would be a good fit. Do you have a 9-5 job? Where you will commute to will make a big difference in your decision. I can give you more opinions depending on that.
     
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  25. wahoowa

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    We know a few Hobe Sound folks that relo'd to the west coast (the "other" boca) ...save one, they all moved back within several years.

    If your thing is exquisite dining out, shopping galore, miamiesque running/gunning, you may not like the slower (God's waiting room - I literally heard that once) pace. Naples is "getting Eastcoastish" - to me, a shame, as I knew it in the 60's - and may be more your liking.

    But, if your day, is all about outdoors (fishing, swimming, riding, tennis, golf, etc) and you prefer a golf cart as transportation and you are typically in bed by 9 :eek: you might like it!
     
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