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  1. HotShoe

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    It’s popular because they are successfully targeting the participation trophy generation. They are an entirely different demographic who is softer than previous generations. They rode bikes with helmets, never drank out of the hose or got in fights. They listen to Coldplay and Taylor Swift and their idea of entertainment is the Kardashians. They cancel anyone they don’t agree with or deem unsafe. Any type of danger or risk triggers them.

    The old F1 terrifies them because it is the antithesis of their helicopter parent fabricated safe space. Lmao, imagine James Hunt being in F1 today? They’d rather see drivers pontificate social stances on their helmet than be the least bit traditionally masculine or competitive.

    It’s a 60 second sound bite, pandering world where people are famous for Tik Toc dances or Onlyfans and F1 now caters to them.

    :D
     
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  2. jpalmito

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    Post of the day !
     
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  3. william

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    Just wait for OPEC to TRIPPLE the price of the barrel of oil ($85 today) like they once did during a previous oil crisis, and the public will be soon convinced ! To depend from such volatile energy suppliers as the Middle East or Russia has proven to be a dangerous gamble.
    As for cost, electric cars can cost up to 5 times less to run than a petrol ones.
    Believe what you want ...
     
  4. jpalmito

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    This is not what I believe which is important.
    Reality is.
     
  5. william

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    You look at life with blinkers, and reject what you don't like.
    But things will happend just the same, that we like them or not.
     
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  6. jgonzalesm6

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    As someone once said and quite possibly will be #47 -->"Drill baby, drill."
     
  7. william

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    Maybe in the US, but not in Europe.
    For example, the new British government elected last week, cancelled all drilling applications in its economic zone in the North Sea.
    Oil is becoming a dirty word on this side of the pond.
     
  8. jgonzalesm6

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    Reality here in the U.S. as @jpalmito posted is:

    1) 3000 dealerships wrote to the current administration to let them know their EV mandates are unattainable. In other words, hardly anyone is buying them.

    2) Several car manufacturers have scaled back dramatically in producing EV's because of the very slow sales and the billions it is costing for these manufacturers.

    3) 46% of EV users say they will not buy another EV because of various reasons.

    Hurricane Beryl hit Houston and drivers were stuck on the road for 30hours trying to evacuate the city due to the congestion. Some ran out of gas and were pushed to the nearest gas station to fill up. Bet, you couldn't wait in line for 30hours or be pushed to the nearest charging station if your vehicle was an EV.

    That's the reality here. Oh. It wasn't cold either which EV's don't hold their charge for very long as well.
     
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  9. xpensivewino

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    This might be one of the least true statements I’ve ever seen…lol
     
  10. xpensivewino

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    Here comes the ole “electric cars are good for the environment” story..lol. The pollution created to produce one battery for an electric car is more than a fleet of Dodge Hell Cats running at full throttle for 100k miles!! And about 80% of the electricity produced to charge your electric “morality machine” is fed by you guessed it COAL FIRED ENERGY PLANTS.
     
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    Yep, and a family of 4 with 2 EV's for example will charge(just 1 EV) or use up enough electricity to run 8 refrigerators meaning IF half of California's population ran on EV's, the electrical grid would not be able to sustain the use of charging just the EV's. Already California is experiencing brownouts and blackouts and it's not even close to half of California's population.
     
  12. jpalmito

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    Last winter in France,because of ideological choices made by mister Hollande ten years ago( not refreshing our nuclear system), we were close to lack electricity for our global daily basis ..
    Just imagine for a growing electrified automotive market ..
    Lol
     
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    They estimated here in the states to update the electrical grid for the whole United States would cost an estimated 10 to 15 TRILLION dollars just for the EV's. Not possible.
     
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    people need to understand that it took 110+ yrs to create our current fuel/petrol grid.
    and that wasnt built by the govt but by the oil industry.
     
  15. william

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    Again, maybe in the US, but not in Europe !! Two different worlds ...
     
  16. Nurburgringer

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    so this thread has morphed into an EV discussion, cool!

    Whoever said 80% of their electricity comes from coal must live in South Africa, the most coal-dependent place on earth at ~70%.

    Here in the green energy paradise of TX we only get ~10% of our electricity from coal, with wind and solar frequently exceeding all fossil fuel production.
    Today isn't windy at all so only ~33% total green electricity.
    Current demand of 62,000MW is lower than usual, thanks to still nearly 1/2 million without power from Hurricane Beryl (only a CAT 1).
    Great that Centerpoint Energy's CEO Jason Wells is earning his $37M salary ;)
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    When the battery capacity in my BMW i3 loses ~20% in about 10-20 years it'll still be useful as a home backup power system.
    Until then we'll enjoy driving it, much more than we have any other ICE commuter car.
     
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  17. Nurburgringer

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    Not even in the US.
    Currently coal makes up only 17% of total power generation in the USA, and it's declining every day.
    Renewables currently make up ~25%.

    Still behind Europe's ~44% renewable but not as far as you may think.
     
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    Norway, a small Scandinavian country not blessed with many sun hours, made a choice that paid off.
    They gets 95% of their power from renewable energies.
    More than 50% of their cars are electric.
     
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    Yes high EV adoption is going to require not only a stronger power grid but also some measure of cooperation between drivers.
    Not charging unnecessarily (or unnecessarily fast) during peak demand, for example.
    I know it may seem like communism but working together isn't always bad.

    BTW I'm curious how much current and future grid issues are caused by data centers and bitcoin mines vs EVs. The strain they're putting on the ERCOT grid is a much bigger concern here in TX than EVs.
     
  20. Mitch Alsup

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    Coal Fired Power Plants ae 40% (and declining) of the power grid.

    Due to fracking, may coal plants are now burning natural gas instead of coal.
     
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  22. william

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    An acquaintance of mine in London, England, runs the distribution side of a large industrial bakery in the South East of the country.
    His company changed 12 of their delivery vans (of a fleet of 20) for EV vehicles, to keep unrestricted access in the capital.
    After 2 years, the running cost for these EV vans was found to be between 5 and 8 times less than similar ICE vans.
    Same itineraries, same drivers, same traffic conditions, same workload, and with far less maintenance needed too, as a bonus.
    This year, they ordered 8 more vans to switch completely their fleet to electric. I read many companies do the same: UPS, Fedex, etc ...

    If all the "captive" fleets of vehicles (fire brigade, ambulances, police, buses, garbage collection, post office, parcel delivery, etc...) not affected by range issues, could switch to electric power, that would be a huge saving on the public purse and solve a lot of pollution problems.
     
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    Electric vehicles also use tires at 3x the rate of petrol cars. Guess what litters the planet as much as plastic bottles? Used tires. I have nothing against electric vehicles but the superior moral argument made by their proponents are ridiculous. You only need to look into the ACTUAL facts of their production and maintaining of them to see it’s all marketing hype. Besides the average surface temperature of the planet since 1880 at its lowest point is 3/4 of a degree colder and 1 degree warmer. Hype, marketing, and cherry picked data.
     
  24. SS454

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    For one, ICE vehicles produce minimal amounts of air pollution. Fractions in comparison to industry.

    I do however think that local delivery vehicles (amazon, UPS, etc), some police and rescue and of course taxi's make sense to be EV. However, would Amazon and UPS be able to charge their fleet of EV's daily? When it gets to -40C here, electric vehicles won't even charge properly. Can a taxi afford a 100+ km round trip for one customer when charging times take hours?

    No matter how you want to see it, the infrastructure is just not ready for the EV's the governments are trying to force on us.
     
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    Why would an EV use tires 3x faster?
     

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