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  1. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    That's what I thought also, even the legendary "Toyota re-sale value" can't save a Prius lol.
     
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  2. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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  3. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No thanks
     
  4. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Be the perfect EV for you
     
  5. carl888

    carl888 F1 Veteran
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    FIXED
     
  6. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Anything Porsche is too expensive for a DD.
     
  7. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Of well buy a Camry
     
  8. greg246

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    About $70-80k is the sweet spot for me re a DD. If I can get 10 years out of it, that’s cheap motoring in my mind
     
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  9. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    If I did daily high KMs -I would own and drive a quality car and to hell with the depreciation.
     
  10. greg246

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    I don’t care about the depreciation. I hang on to them for 10 years and then trade them in for basically nothing. I need reliability and long service intervals. At 40k km per year, i have no interest in cars that need a service every 10k km. It’s just too inconvenient to take a day off and organise servicing etc
     
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  11. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    dealerships have lone cars and most modern cars have 20,000km intervals or 1 year
     
  12. greg246

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    It just doesn’t work that easily. I’m out the door before 7am every day. I’ve tried getting a loan car but they always **** around and I get to work too late
     
  13. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Seems all too hard
     
  14. peterp

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    #1964 peterp, Jul 17, 2024
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    That's the thing -- if you travel too far on a regular basis (pushing EV range limits), Tesla/EV probably isn't a very good choice. However, if you travel very far daily (but still within range), that's actually the sweet spot because an EV will save a ton on fuel, and save a lot of time by not needing to go to that station constantly, and save a ton long-term on maintenance.
     
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  15. peterp

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    Porsche as a DD didn't used to be too expensive. Now the maintenance is easily triple or four times what it should be -- and what it used to be. All of the dealers used to run oil service specials for $89 all of the time -- now it's $600 for a basic oil change. My $625 air filter replacement quote ($40 filter + 5 minutes labor) is 930 AUD. The 40k service quote (which is all minor stuff -- PDK oil change, oil change, brake fluid flush, clean drains, air/cabin filter) dealer quote was $4200 USD (6250 AUD) when I had 32k miles on the car -- same price as it costs to replace a Prius battery Toyota MSRP that will last 10 year/150k miles -- for basically trivial oil and filter changes.

    I'll be very curious to see what the service costs are for the Macan EV, I'm sure they'll find a way to gouge. For Tesla, it's practically zero. Not sure why new Porsche owners take ridiculous 3-4x dealer service charges in stride -- they should be walking with their wallet. I certainly am.
     
  16. greg246

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  17. PAP 348

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  20. carl888

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    Why don't you follow the Rabbi wallet mantra of many Ferrari owners and don't bother to get your car serviced at all? Just drive till it stops on those Chinese tyres, and blame someone else.
     
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  21. carl888

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  22. greg246

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    There’s a couple of those on here. Pseudoenthusiasts


    And, go choke on a bagel
     
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  23. IanB

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    The origin of the left's anti nuclear obsession was KGB funding of activists (who handily were mostly communists) in Germany in 1980. I went to their first rally and happily put a "Atomkraft Nein Danke" sticker on my car.

    Russia wanted to reduce the west's production of plutonium in order to have the upper hand in the cold war nuclear standoff. Living in Germany at that time, the threat of war with Russia was a real and oppressive fact. Tactical nuclear missiles were stationed just a few hundred kms away. US tanks trundled through the suburbs on rubber-block treads. It wasn't hard to be convinced.

    The propaganda that persists today is the legacy of the KGB. Ironically, it was Russia's massively flawed graphite-moderated reactor design that underpins today's hysteria, yet even there the actual loss of life was less than happened in coal mines every year.

    Meanwhile, France has operated US-style reactors at large scale for over 50 years without the slightest problem. And of course at Fukushima, one person died of lung cancer 7 years later, with no mention of circumstances (e.g. was he a smoker?).
     
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  24. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Maybe noone died in the actual collapse of the Fukishima plant, but an entire town became uninhabitable as a result...
     
  25. islerodreaming

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    And it certainly didn't help that Merkel was in Putins pocket..
     

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