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  1. scargo70

    scargo70 Karting

    Aug 6, 2004
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    I heard that there is a company in Michigan which can update the AC system in the Dino.
    Any info?
    thanks
     
  2. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    There are several companies that can update the system. It is a york compressor, the fan motor is the issue.

    If you are going to update, just make sure it isn't going to changhe the visual aspects and can be retro'ed

    I am in Houston and haven't retro'ed a system yet, where are you and are you planning on driving it dailey?
     
  3. scargo70

    scargo70 Karting

    Aug 6, 2004
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    I am in Chicago but use the car for a rally in Arizona in the spring where an AC does help.
     
  4. synchro

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    Here is my A/C system removed from the car.
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139362526&postcount=6

    While Sean is right, one serious downfall is the slow speed of the ventilation fan,
    I've found:
    - an original size and fit compressor that is identical to the original's outline and mounts exactly using the original bracket. It has a 40% higher cfm with superior modern seals (viton). Can take R-12, R-22, R-134a refrigerants (and others), you'll need your original clutch. Cost is $350
    - larger condensor that extends the full width of the front radiator mounts, cost is $200
    - new A/C dryer
     
  5. Joe_SSC

    Joe_SSC Rookie

    Aug 23, 2011
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    Synchro, any chance you remember the part number of that York compressor? We have a '74 246 in our shop with a leaking compressor - trying to stack as many optional courses of action as possible. I'd feel better about that than trying to reseal the original. Thanks, Joe.
     
  6. Ludo Boon

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    Hello where can I find these parts? Condenser
     
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  7. Ludo Boon

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    Oh sorry, better fan, condenser etc

    Ludo
     
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  9. Ludo Boon

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    Hello we need some help.
    We now got most parts gathered for the ac.
    Who has info or technical drawings or can provide lots of pictures of how the ac is installed. How and where is the evaporator box installed etc.
    What to remove and install
    Is Any cutting required ?
    All info is welcome

    Ludo
     
  10. Sergio Tavares

    Sergio Tavares Formula 3

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    first a dino, now a 330, Tom Yang's A/C master at 7c flowing

     
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  12. swift53

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    https://www.classicautoair.com/shop/complete-ac-systems/european-ac-systems/ferrari-ac-systems/ferrari-dino-246-lhd/1973-ferrari-dino-246-lhd-air-conditioning-system/

    Hello Ludo, you might wish to call them on your queries...

    Regards,
    Alberto
     
  13. omgjon

    omgjon F1 Rookie
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    You would think by now someone could come up with a compact electric A/C system where you don't have a boat anchor compressor hanging on the motor. You have the space in the footwell to work with and the space where the blower fan is now.
     
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  14. Sergio Tavares

    Sergio Tavares Formula 3

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    What price would you pay?
     
  15. omgjon

    omgjon F1 Rookie
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    What do you have in mind?
     
  16. omgjon

    omgjon F1 Rookie
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    I don't think you understood my question.
     
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  17. JCR

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    In a Dino? Not without a battery bank and high amp alternator. Check the cooling amp draw on the smallest 12VDC system. That does not include inrush at startup. SCSpecSheet-combined.pdf (mabrupowersystems.com)
     
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  18. Sergio Tavares

    Sergio Tavares Formula 3

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    Is there any science that points to the compressor as being weak? Any measurements of the refirgerant to support the claim?
    Many installers of water pumps and alternators think of A/C as the same style, bolt it on, fill it up and plug it in then all is easy.
    No special installation lengths necessary, no understanding the system, no tuning needed, all just works.
     

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