That makes complete sense. Just wish I knew if my car was completed before or after the holidays in August, not that it matters at this point in time.
This is exactly the different sequences I have for the body number but what I do not understand is: - US QV built in 1982 have door tag showing jan and feb83 have F105A040 (this first "batch" from 1982 stopped in summer 82 then there are only Euro cars made) - US QV built in 1983 from real feb83 to dec83 has F105E040 but still VIN ZFFMA
And your source for this? Are you trying to tell us US 308QVs were being built prior to summer 82? That directly contradicts Ferrari records.Just what were they doing with them? They sure were not sending them to dealers. And I can tell you F105E engines were not out there in early 83. I was working in Ferrari dealers at the time and thats not what Ferrari was building. Your sources are wrong.
Triple black Unless you have more than one example of both years, you might just have bad data, ie: replaced vin tags. 40 years laters, I'm sure a lot of these cars have stories with vin numbers not matching what came out of the factory
I don't have any source, I just have collected data with few examples chosen below. I don't know about Ferrari records, I don't have any access to them: 41623 US GTSi 2v showing March82 door tag 41695 US GTSi QV showing Jan83 door tag 41751 US GTSi 2v showing March82 door tag 41797 US GTBi QV showing feb83 door tag 41817 US GTSi QV showing feb83 door tag ... 42003 is an Euro GTSi built (and confirmed) in May82 ... 42081 US GTBi 2v showing April82 door tag 42083 US GTBi QV showing March83 door tag ... 42361 US GTSi QV showing feb83 door tag ... 42477 US GTSi QV showing January83 door tag (with the last F105A040 in my record) ... then a period of production with only Euro cars, the last injected 2v continental and RHD market, then the beginning of QV continental and RHD market in October, November and December 82 (with factory confirmed Euro car chassis numbers which indicate manufacturing dates) this period starts from chassis 42537 to 45271 (with inside only 4 cars said to be US but not confirmed) then 45303 US GTSi QV showing February83 with a body number 3A and a F105E040-00053 ... All the engine number I have after are E040 according to an increasing linear sequence until December 1983 where the sequence starts again from zero which I do not explain, I only note. That is why I asked my question in my previous post and correct me if I'm wrong but car in 83 are still ZFFMA to be more precise, I have 92 US GTSi QV and 9 US GTBi QV in "1982" I do not want to contradict official sources, I am only observing. If cars were built and then subsequently put on the market, maybe that's what must have happened, I don't know, the only thing I doubt is that the factory was looking for "old" " chassis number. Another interesting point that I talked about a little earlier about the different sequences is that these "1982" chassis follow the assembly sequence of the 2v injection chassis, it's quite interesting to underline it. (for example, the US GTSi QV #41897 has the body number 1875A...)
I dont have exact info on it but either very late July or very early August. I think pretty certain before the break. Its a US car. What does the plate say?
I'll be very blunt. I don't believe you. What you are saying contradicts way too many very reliable sources and my own experience from that period when I was working in this business.
I'm really sorry. My goal was not to contradict anyone but to ask questions. Of course, I am not a player in this Ferrari 80s history but I have been collecting data on the 308 for 20 years and my approach has always been analytical and factual. I am precisely not citing sources which can sometimes be doubtful. The data comes from the owners, which minimizes errors but is still possible. The few elements that I give cannot be denounced. cars exist, I have the door tag when I mention them, nothing is invented. There are a hundred QVs in the 82 vin period, which are not tagged with this year but with the year after (impatiently awaiting a contradiction). All these numbers are also listed in the F-Register, I may have more details but nothing is invented. So either these cars were manufactured, stored, sent and then put on the market from 1983 or there is another reason that I don't know but I'm just putting the elements on the table, you are free to ignore them. Concerning the engines, I must admit that for this part, we would need a lot more numbers. I may have received typos because it is very hard to see and even harder to photograph so I prefer to tell myself that my data is not consolidated and consider that the F105A040 is the engine delivered in 1983 which corresponds to the M of the VIN, It’s much more relevant, I grant you. I often ask for engine numbers but without much success, however the subject is important. Concerning the last quarter of 1982 where only Euros were built, likewise, if owners have QVs bearing a chassis number between 42537 and 45271, if they testify, it will be very interesting. That's what I say, regardless of whether you believe me or not, if at least it brings out cars, that will be so much the better. I praise the participation of this forum which I have been following since 2006, I learned there and I still learn every day thanks to the enormous wealth of the archives and the numerous participants. Now, it remains a forum, that is to say a place for debate and sharing, something I have always done even if the US market is certainly not the one I know best. I hope this thread continues, thanks for reading
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Unfortunatly no, I am not the owner of the GTB register, you should send a mail to Robert Retzlaff, I am taking care of GTS, GTSi & GTBi
