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  1. Edward 96GTS

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    does the split window seem forced?
    is the rear window now considered passe since the rear view camera/mirrror is so good?
    is this a little copy catish of the F812 Comp rear window treatment?
     
  2. jm2

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    Uh, why yes!
    Contrived might be a better description .
     
  3. JV's89

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    A reasonably well optioned z06 is 6ok less than the speculative zr1 price.

    I bought my wife a nice Genesis GV70 for only a little more than that.:)
     
  4. NA (LT6) versus FI (LT7) isn't enough differentiation for you?

    It is a Grand Canyon difference for 99% of the people out there who care about cars like this.
     
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  5. imahorse

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    I meant visually....

    Sure you have the split window, but the other changes are pretty subtle.

    The wing will only be on the track packages.

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  6. F2003-GA

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    Closer to 300k imo
     
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  7. boxerman

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    Id like to see that wing and the rest of the track package on a z06, that imo would be areal z06, plus the weight saving measures.

    back tot he zr1, it immediately makes pretty much everything under 500k from Lambo Mclaren Ferrai obsolete. The exotics poitn of differentiation now is maybe styling , its not powerplants or raw performance numbers or arguably even weight(except Maclaren) . All for 2-300k more. Yeah styling is important, and yeah the vette interior is a tarts handbag, on the other hand you get great warranty and effortless performance.

    now some will argue a 750's is faster. Not sure how one defines speed and speed differentials at this level, for all these cars are excessive.

    The euros are obsessed with their green regulations. Thats imo crippled their performance brands. Maybe the 296 is superlative to drive, but the electrification is a big question mark, and makes it no lightweight. one need only look at the new M5, more expensive, heavier and slower than the one before to see which way the euros are going.

    meanwhile corvette is building the type of cars Ferrari used to build. In one platform were getting a 458(z06) and a F8,(zr1) bit with more performance.
    These latest vettes are what happens when you let talented people lead and do their thing.
     
  8. Thecadster

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    Anyone else nervous about the durability of this new power plant? Most everyone has at least some trepidation regarding electrification in performance cars (too much complexity, too much to go wrong), but it seems like this new engine completely throws all caution to the wind. At the end of the day, if Toyota could jack up a simple V6, could GM not screw up a super exotic V8 that’s boosted to the moon?
     
  9. Gofastr

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  10. All C8s look the same (generally speaking, save for a wing there, and a front splitter here or there).
     
  11. jimmyb

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    #111 jimmyb, Jul 26, 2024
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    Sad but true...
    The square steering wheel in the C8 is mentioned (complained about) in EVERY single review you will ever see, going back 5 years.
    What else had a square steering wheel, you ask?
    LaFerrari for one.
    I never read ONE review whining about that steering wheel.

    2nd gen Ford GT for two.
    Just like the LaFerrari

    No matter what GM does with the Corvette, we now have 3 generations of automotive writers still dragging out the "gold chain/New Balance" BS. I guess they think it's a "new" joke that they cleverly thought up.

    We bought our daughter a 2024 Chevrolet Trax (first car). Car and Driver gave it a "10 Best" place, and actually wrote: "This car is better than it needs to be".
    Never seen them write that about a Civic...
     
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  12. boxerman

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    laferrari and ford gt we unobtanium museum
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    C8 is for driving

    what were the steering rations on the lag and fgt.

    Love the z06 and zr1 but there are some questionable gimmicks in them
     
  13. jimmyb

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    Kind of like 911's, Teslas, all Audis, etc...?
     
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  14. jimmyb

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    Like what gimmicks?
     
  15. Face76

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    Riptide blue with argon interior, please
     
  16. F2003-GA

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    Get an extended warranty backed by GM an you'll be fine
     
  17. I would have no more (or less) concern about the LT6 than a hybrid setup in the 296/SF90.

    And for the MSRP of either a 296 or SF90, I could easily buy 2 (maybe even 3) ZR1s.

    So just buy 3, and if they blow, the three ZR1s will still probably outlast a hybrid failure on the 296/SF90.
     
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  18. thecarreaper

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    The C8R race cars have had the split rear window for cooling for several years. this is explained in one of the videos on youtube.
    They added this on the ZR1 for cooling since the turbos make so much heat.
     
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  19. BJK

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    #119 BJK, Jul 27, 2024
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    Chevy's presentation ....... Jump to 18:40 for some in-car track sight & sound. (should have had a dash gauges cam to accompany it)


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  20. Eric R

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    Then what about the convertible? It has the same little vent that the other models do. At least from what I have seen.
     
  21. Eric R

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    Remember the LT5 in 1989? Most complex engine of its time and also the most durable. It was so smooth at idle that they balanced a quarter on the manifold to prove how smooth. This one fits in that same category and you will not see it in another GM vehicle jus like you never found the LT5 elsewhere.
     
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  22. GTS Bruce

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    Engine is built for 1000+ hp. Titanium rods,direct and port injection,cams,valves,etc,etc. trans too.
     
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    #123 CinciOptics, Jul 28, 2024
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    Curb weight of the production ZR1 will be 400+ lbs vs. the 296, slightly higher for the AF.

    It will not be "much quicker" than a 296 in a quarter or probably even 1/2 mile.

    The balance, weight characteristics of the 296 vs. (what we know) for the ZR1; I would be surprised if the ZR1 was "tied".

    There will be also be some turbo lag introduced.

    The SF90 will still be faster by a decent margin as well.


    Not saying it will not be an amazing car, especially the track package, but let's not get carried away.

    The track is where you could see the "noticeable" separation between the aforementioned models.

    I am impressed just not delusional. We have seen plenty of 1000HP+ models not perform as well as the newer Ferrari products. Lambo anyone?

    Lamborghini Revuelto dry weight 3900?

    ZR1 Dry weight is estimated at 3700 - 3800lbs already in the pre-production model.

    My 296 AF curb weight is 3,528 lb. with 40/60 lcog mounted power system exactly where you want it.
     
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  24. It will also be about at least 200k less expensive than the 296, and probably 300k+ than the SF90. MSRP to MSRP
     
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  25. Face76

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    The ZR1 is a realistic alternative for the people wanting that level of performance who do not live near an F dealership.
     
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