Mileage blockers....these guys can rot in hell

Odometer fraud is a serious felony in all 50 states, no matter the year model. I'm thinking this fraud is going to grow more and more due to the price of cars outpacing inflation.

 

It's the availability of the technology that is causing the increase.

And actually "no matter the model year" isn't accurate.

There is no federal requirement after 10 years.

Infact... Many states and an increasing number of states are exempting odometer reporting after 10 years old. You have to remind/force the state to keep the mileage reporting on titles and inspections. It can cause a lot of issues but governments.are really really dropping the ball on this.

Also... There is a time limit as you are not required to know or state mileage with absolute accuracy on say a 100 year old car.

A person can not speak to the cars odometer condition for all that time. It could have been unplugged or broken from 1948-1963 when it was repaired. You just never know. It starts getting a little wishy washy when the cars get old. Which is annoying but....I get it.

Thinks like Carfax etc... will keep the more modern cars more transparent

 

If the odometer mileage is incorrect, the law requires a statement to that effect to be furnished on the title to the buyer. However, a vehicle is exempt from the written disclosure requirements if it's 20 years old or older, or a model year 2010 vehicle or older. https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle-safety/odometer-fraud#:~:text=Odometer Fraud Laws,-Committing odometer fraud&text=If the odometer mileage is,year 2010 vehicle or older.

The disclousure might not be necessary by law, but odometer fraud is still a felony but incredibly hard to prove, so buyer beware. The way the NHTSA law is written almost incentives odometer fraud.

 

Thanks !
That was my understanding, but it was based on information received 30+ years ago from a friend who used to own & operate one of the oldest (now defunct) speedometer repair & service shops, if not in the US, at least here in CA.
IIRC, he/his shop was one of the first CHP certified (in late 1950s ?) for verifying speedo-/odometers accuracies in case of legal challenges for speeding, etc.

But as I said, countless people perform countless illegal activities on countless public roads every day and therefore, as "they" say, "Your Mileage May Vary".

 

Yup. Which is pretty much what I was saying.

I forgot the 2010 thing because the last few years are a blur...

But yes... Like everything... The government gets in the middle and seems to make things worse.

 

Interesting thread. I was just having a discussion about selling an Aston with a dead odometer.
The guy didn't care about mileage, but told me the Testarossa had a fuse that could be pulled to stop the odometer.
Anybody know if that's true?

 

one well known shop in Cali was busted for adding miles to the odometer to be able to import it to the state. couldnt import cars with less than x miles.

 

I don't buy that. If condition is the most important along with service records, (I basically agree with that) then why bother to eff with the odometer? Lying is lying and the only thing it accomplishes is to brand yourself as a liar.

 

Because most car buyers in my experience buy on mileage. Especially exotic buyers. Yeah they want to see that it was serviced too, but the first thing most sellers list after the vin is mileage, not that it's been well cared for or that they have gobs or service records.

I had a Porsche sales guy tell me once, "Don't put more than 5,000 miles a year on the car, it'll ruin the value for resale if you do and this was in 1980." I ignored him, put plenty of miles on the car, didn't care. Had an excellent mechanic care for the car, kept meticulous records, and new whoever eventually bought it from me would be getting a great car, and he did.

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**** em if they can't take a joke.