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EAG, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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  1. Eric C

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    Update?
     
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  2. carnutdallas

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    Why does Art not pay me!


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  3. ttforcefed

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    My scud is at universal right now if anyone cares to see it. You can also feel free to ask Pete what he thinks of the car and the conversion.

    And oh yeah both the clutch stop and the ediff work as they should. Confirmed by the place who has done the most conversions in the northeast.
     
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    Your Scud is OEM parts, right?
     
  5. ttforcefed

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    Correct and my 430 is aftermarket
     
  6. zhonghuihe

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    What is the name of that place? I am looking into manual conversion now.
     
  7. Qksilver

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    Cool, right. I'd expect the OEM conversion to be just fine! :)
     
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  8. ttforcefed

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    Oh no, not according to the resident illuminati!
     
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    need some free market competition. this is what $3-4k in CNC'd parts?
     
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    #1211 imahorse, Aug 20, 2024
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    Depends on how you make them, depends on how many you sell, depends on how much you care about quality, etc.

    Anyone can cobble together a housing with a bunch of pieces of metal for cheap. Casting and machining it like OEM is much more expensive and tricky to do. One piece billet is superior to that and even more expensive to do.

    Then you also gotta figure on the quality and sophistication of the equipment and the skill of the machinist. My good friend is a master machinist that has made parts for Space X and NASA rovers. The equipment we had access to to make some of the parts for my shifter wasn't perfectly suited and while the parts came out fine, there were certainly a couple hiccups along the way.

    Way too many variables.

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  12. MachVec

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    Aftermarket parts can vary vastly in quality and precision. Design, manufacturing, assembly and final install are all equally important

    @ttforcefed we are installing the MMWX kit in his 430 spider and he is also allowing us to use it for demo purposes in tri state area.
     
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    Ferraris deserve the best, not the cheapest.
     
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    Agree in theory, though I think we all know a lot of the factory parts weren’t exactly the last word in quality.

    Sticky buttons anyone?


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    just like MILSPEC
     
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    Definitely. And I think people often forget how far manufacturing has come the past 20 years. The state of the art CNC machines of that era we still have at work are being scrapped because they can't produce the tight tolerances the new ones can. And that's just the machining side of things.



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  17. Shark01

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    Wait, isn't that the fingerprint identification lock out feature? Ferrari was ahead of its time.
     
  18. imahorse

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    That made me bust out laughing lmao

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    Someone tell Ferrari that! Fully agree. Somethings OEM were done so well but some leave a lot to be desired. Bring it all together and we all love the cars regardless of their short comings.
     
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    The CNC parts if produced yourself or outsourced agreed will ultimately be the smallest part of the expenses. The parts always have tolerance variables from the best machinists. Then the design, programming and machining to tighten up tolerances so everything works together with every clip bearing washer nut and bolt. Then thro in the free radicals from every chassis. The design work, R&D, assembly, installation, people, support of the product etc etc etc etc etc.... Basic business expenses. Adds up quick. Everything seems simple until it's attempted.

    If you look closely at OEM parts there are hand modifications made to parts all over. During that era Ferrari still put a personal human touch tweaking tolerances here and there.
     
  21. imahorse

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    EAG announced on Instagram that they are accepting orders for Murcielago conversions, which is interesting because to my knowledge they have yet to convert one, while the people who left and regrouped, MMWX, have.

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    Hopefully they can get the money and pay the $50k Judgment I have against him :)


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    There is an active driving video on insta of the client driving the car. Works quite well.
     
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    How long before Art/EAG gets upside down on finances and starts scamming customers again? I can’t believe a customer risked their car to that experiment. I’d only trust a company that first develops the conversion kit/process on a car that they own.
     
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    What makes you think he ever stopped?
     
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