Ferrari apparently working on La “Machina” model; a V12 manual transmission answer to Aston Valiant

I would not be surprised, leaving money on the table by not offering something with a gated manual.

 

Please God let it have physical buttons, not the new haptic junk

 

In speaking with a Ferrari rep this year at car week, He feels that most, if not all manufacturers will be going back to buttons, including Ferrari. Nobody happy with the haptic in a car I guess.

 

Just in time for California to put in annoying beeps when you go 10MPH over the speed limit!

 

I'd wish so, but ""He (Manzoni) also insists that the interior, all the touch sensitive stuff is great (and) needs to carry on. It makes it so minimalist."

Manzoni is genuinely convinced that touch capactive buttons are good, needs to carry on and adds to the overall sleekness of the interior's design. I'm afraid Ferrari suffers too much from Italian stubbornness to revert to buttons.

Quote from Top Gear's video on the 12C

 

Actually some countries are getting some functions obligatory with true buttons by 2026-2027. So yes Ferrari will do it but all the manufacturers will - at least for what’s going to be ruled by this new law.

 

I hope so with all my heart. Have you had a chance to read this information from the source?

 

It would be great if they did, but they are not leaving money on the table. They sell everything they make at full pop.

 

I say, ZERO chance this car happens.... possibly in 8-10 years when the electric thing is over and everyone reverts back to ICE and/or hydrogen but we're not gonna see a manual Ferrari anytime soon.... just my opinion.

 

What I meant to say is by not producing a manual they are leaving money on the table!

 

Not sure about the actual business case given the still relatively limited production of Ferrari; the US-centric hype for manual gearboxes may not be enough to justify the development of a specific gearbox, which in addition would not be possible to adapt to hybrid models.

 

Agree. Building a manual again will NOT increase sales OR profits. They already sell everything they make and markup to dealer will be the same so it’ll be a zero dollar increase. All it will do is make the manual lover guys happier which isn’t any goal of Ferrari.


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I'll believe it when I see it. While they throw the word "passione" on anything they can these days, their new models seem mostly devoid of any passion in the name of trying to be overly techy, emissions compliant, and keeping shareholders happy. The 296 is somewhat pretty, and while I haven't driven one, ive heard great things about it. The V12 is still awesome, but those are the only 2 things I can think of with a lot of passion behind them that are currently happening.

Still, other manufacturers are realizing that excessive tech, engine assists, and DCTs, while making cars perform better, remove a lot of the engagement. GMA and Pagani really understand this and Bugatti and Koenigsegg have come around to this notion with their latest models.

Despite being one of the youngest people actively on here, I'm still a large proponent of analog cars. While I can certainly understand wanting to nail down crazy lap times and push performance boundaries, which is a huge part of Ferrari heritage, it would be nice for them to make a manual car with engagement and driving experience in mind. That is what brought a large sector of Ferrari owners to the brand, and it feels like the brand has forgotten about them completely.

Again, I'll believe it when I see it.

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Do you have any evidence for either of your recent threads as to be honest an anonymous (by name & territory) poster with does not even say he heard from a friend of a friend on the moon who inadvertently picked up a radio message direct from Maranello (as is often the intro to this type of thread here) lacks credibility ?

 

Friend of a friend who was working the night shift and over heard the janitor who saw paperwork on someone’s desk. Reliable. (My bet is neither post turns out to be credible).

 

I guess that makes you deep throat?

 

I agree with Dustin: I'll believe it when I see it.

As much as I'd like it to be true, I have doubts.

 

would be interesting especially as seen as many people on here seem to think there's zero market for this type of car and Ferrari would struggle to sell it