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  1. /five

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    Gorgeous!
     
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    Lovely piece.
     
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    Work of art, do you have any history of the rife?
     
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    #5 /five, Sep 8, 2024
    Yes, it was made in 1952 for Maharaja George Jivaji Rao Scindia “King George” of Gwalior. I have a picture of him tiger hunting

    A lot of these former Maharaja rifles can have short length of pulls but this one as I recall is 14.5 and is made from modern steel (although I have had beautiful Damascus black powder express rifles that I shoot without concern). The 24” barrels are quick and with weight “between the hands” this handles like a bird gun.

    It really is exquisite.

    I’d potentially be open for any interesting trades
     
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    #6 NYC Fred, Sep 8, 2024
    What an incredible firearm.
    GLWS
    It appears that the cheekpiece was carved out of the stock...the grain matches.
    Is that the case?
    Impressive.
     
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    #7 swift53, Sep 8, 2024
    H&H the very best.
    I had a friend that worked there and took me to their range to see how they regulated
    the point of impact to be same at a preset distance, in side by side rifles.

    To what distance is this lovely gun set at?

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    Hi all,
    Am considering going to Africa in 2026 in which case I’ll hang onto this rifle but in meantime thought I’d bump this to the top.
    I haven’t motivated to consign with H&H yet, just seeing if any interest here. I’ve gotten the watch bug. Cash sale preferred but I’ll consider trades to include AP, Rolex Daytona, PP, etc or air cooled 911s.
    Thanks
     
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    #9 swift53, Dec 10, 2024
    I imagine you must be affiliated with a 'top notch' Safari outfitter, as travelling with guns nowadays
    is harder than taking someone else's child across borders.

    Besides, Africa in 2026? The world as is, well I leave it to your imagination.
    By the way, you never replied to my question of the sighting distance for this gun.

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    Magnificent rifle. Artifact from a bygone era. What an experience it will be to use it in the field in Africa.
    Best of luck on the hunt.
     
  11. /five

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    Hi Alberto, I wasn’t ignoring your earlier question re regulation just wasn’t sure how to answer. I am far from knowledgeable on this point and am aware that there are differing opinions but MY understanding is that these are not regulated to a particular distance — in theory the two barrels converge ever closer to infinity. A “hotter” load may produce crossing. I’ll refer anyone who wants to explore this further to the nitroexpress forum and Shooting the British Double Rifle by I believe Graeme Wright.
     
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    I guess the decision to take a rifle like this to Africa is not unlike a big road trip or track day on a low mileage vintage sports car. At the end of the day it may come back with a few dings but that is what the makers envisioned and what it belongs doing
     
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    Patina. And great memories how it got that way.
     
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    Good morning Alberto,
    Its not hard to take a rifle to Africa and many hunters bring rifles worth up to million dollars to hunt. I love the thought if this beauty (rifle) being carried through the Tanzania bush on the trail of a large tusker. super cool.
     
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    That is a fine instrument. Good luck with the sale and good luck on your trip.
     
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    Kinda late Jason, but just read it. A million $ rifle? maybe a 1/4, and then some.
    Maybe Wyatt Earp, or Hitler, yes one of their guns, but, in Africa? Nah.

    People are afraid to drive a 1/2 mil Daytona in the USA, and you'd take a 1 mill gun to Africa? Really?

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    Hi David,
    Yes I believe I will give them a call. I thanks for the lead.
     
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    #20 Rifledriver, Jan 28, 2025
    You must take it on a hunt first. Hemingway wrote novels of such adventures.
     
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    Beautiful firearm. Have you shot it?

    I was hunting Nilgai over the weekend, now you got my imagination going. But, this would be a little overkill!
     
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    My father read all the African big hunter books and was an awesome rifleman / hunter himself.
    It was his great desire to do an African safari. As a Government employee he earned well but with family first = no African safari.
    Those thinking about and can afford it get off your butts.
    Life is short.
     
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    No Mulligans.
     
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    Robert Ruark... was a well known big game hunter and novelist, esp of Africa
     

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