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  1. bjwhite

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    To be clear we aren't talking crossover pipes between banks, but between 1-3 4-6 cylinders per bank.
     
  2. bjwhite

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    Starting a little interior cleanup. Unbeknownst to me, car had kind of a crappy quickie dye job on parts of the interior. Comes off with water.

    Here is the left headrest....look at how this cleans up! Special thanks to a friend of mine for his Connolly leather expertise.


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  5. Il Steeg

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    Nice work. What is the significance of the diagonal marks on those relays? I'm replacing some of my relays, and some of mine have a similar diagonal stripes...
     
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    I'm far from the expert, but the red diagonal stripes mean those relays have a built-in protection diode.
     
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    Good day Brian,

    Looks great! Are those Centre mufflers, resonators, or cats? I look forward to your thoughts once you hear it in person.

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
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    No cats, just little mufflers and a crossover.
     
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    Damn that looks spectacular!
     
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    Definitely looking forward to hearing it in person. How much of the stainless is visible from the side?
     
  14. Schumi

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    Now that's how to do it right (so long as it sounds as good as it looks)! Wish mine looked that good.
     
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    Every time I see a picture of this car, I see grigio. That is the darkest silver I have ever seen.
     
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    ? You see grigio because it is grigio.
     
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    Grigio with Burgundy interior was used in the promotional literature for the 400 from the late 70's. The best combination that draws out the details.
     
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    A little adventure last night. A couple of days ago I took it out for a test drive of about 5-6 miles to shake it out. It needs some additional K-Jet work after sitting for so long. My bet is WURs and maybe distributors and injectors. We'll see.

    So last night I took it out to one of my "car guy group dinner" things we do. It drove ok enough once warm....and once I got there the car was kind of a hit. These guys have been giving me crap for a couple years to get it back on the road so it was exciting that it actually got to show up before the weather turns here in Seattle.

    It looked so good.
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    The car sat for about 10 minutes before @Rahtok wanted to hear the new exhaust. We went to start it and it didn't immediately start and we noticed the starter ran on and on even with the key pulled. As we all expressed surprise like wtf, it stopped.

    Puzzled, I got in the car and tried to start it again, and just a click. Solenoid didn't engage. I tried it again and whoa, the starter tried but then kept going and would NOT shut off. Obviously the solenoid was stuck engaged.

    As I got out, and we all stood around not sure what to do, we noticed the starter area started to smoke after going nonstop for about 30-40 seconds. Rushing around for a wrench to undo the negative batt cable, someone handed me a knife. At this point smoke started coming pretty thick and a good, hot, electrical smell started going. I grabbed the battery cables (which were super hot at this point) to try and yank them off, but they were tight.

    Panic started to set in, someone handed me a super sharp pocket knife and I cut the negative cable. WHEW! Lucky it didn't catch fire. Wow.

    So tow truck got it home safe and sound. I'm glad I got it out for a short drive, but didn't need this adventure on its first drive in so long. If you go back in this very thread, you'll see I had the solenoid replaced back in 2014 a few months after I got the car. So, kind of puzzled as to why this thing seized in the engaged position.

    Oh well, another thing to fix. :)

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    Safe and sound back it in its home.
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    I kinda wanna test the 'start' position of the key to make sure it's still ok and correctly supplying voltage when on and NOT supplying voltage when in run. But learning that these don't have a starter relay is definitely a revelation. Hopefully it'll just be a case of replacing the starter and its cables. Oh... and the snipped main cable too.

    Super bummer for you, but... we should be ready by spring, right? Gonna have to have a rally up here in the PacNW. Get Rob's 412 sorted too.
     
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    holy moly that was close!
    Stunning color combo, btw...
    We all forget about the tool kit in the trunk! - surely there is a wrench in there for such a dilemma.
    I usually keep extra specific tools in the trunks of my older cars: battery terminal wrench, lug nut/bolt socket, etc for a nightmare situation like this one.
    Kudos for maintaining a positive upbeat attitude about it! Your car will thank you later....
    cheers
     
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    Yeah, funny I had the tools out of the car but put them back in prior to the drive. I just didn't quite think I had time--so went to yank the cables off by force, but I had tightened them rather well. haha. In hindsight, I had time, and probably should have grabbed one the 13mm from there.

    Ah well, hindsight is 20/20.
     
  22. Rahtok

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    Yeah - I have a full tool kit in my 928 that I had there, but by the time I ran to get it and returned, the knife had been produced and frankly... was probably the right thing to do anyway. Dem wires were very hot, with the insulation loose and sliding back and forth on it.
     
  23. raemin

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    Yes and no way ton disconnect the starter if you have a circuit breaker next to the fuse panel: the damn starter has its own power supply directly from the battery.

    I did replace the baquelite insulation ring from my brother's starter (we actually machined one). That bit is so thin that it can easily be crushed by the solenoid motion. The resulting spark even burnt the thread of the solenoïd tail!

    Not a fan of this starter for this specific reason. (Let alone its consumption that is not related by any mean to its power output!).
     
  24. Zanny1

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    Put a battery disconnect switch on the car.
    You might consider a gear reduction - high torque mini starter. My C/4 had constant problems with the factory Marrelli starter, even when rebuilt. I replaced it with a mini starter and no more problems. Heat soak wrecks the starters.
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  25. Rahtok

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    I was going to ask who had replaced the starter with a high torque unit and if they were happy about it - thanks for sharing @Zanny1. A lot of my older cars have battery disconnects but my 400 doesn't - mostly for battery preservation when the car isn't in use. That being said, this whole event has me convinced I wanna add one.
     

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