This result is insane. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2024-maserati-mc20-coupe-3/ Brand new limited edition car, never titled, 80k off MSRP. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Do you really think so? Being serious. I have never shied away from bashing the steep depreciation curve of Maseratis, but if it did drop another 40k in 12 months, that would mean the car would have depreciated nearly 50% in 1 year. And even it did, you got to drive it for 12 months for 40k, which all things considered isn't that bad ... especially if you've seen some of the depreciation hits 296/SF90 owners have taken recently.
The MC20 is too fast and too pretty to stay down indefinitely. I’m expecting to cancel my 296 GTS order- which is a better car except for the styling and the headaches the hybrid presents. It will be interesting to see which costs more to own if one buys a slightly used MC20 at 1/3 off.
The market is also telling Maserati to get their **** together. How many times will the ghost of Lee Iacocca and Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis kill the market in the USA?
does anyone really pay sticker for these??? I personally really like the car. would be a great car (I think) to pick up @ 1.5 years old, couple of thousand miles... for 150K or less? they are beautiful, sound good, doors go up, nothing else looks like it... Not garish (I thing the C8, especially from behind is garish).
I think they are a great car now at current prices- so I bought one. It’s much better than I expected.
BINGO! I cannot know if their current pricing is due to Maserati's ego , poor manufacturing efficiency or whatever but what I do know is that heavily the discounted actual sales pricing means that no one believes in their sticker pricing (for all models). That creates a heavy depreciation in used pricing which in turn means those who actually pay full price are ultimately dissatisfied with the cars due to depreciation alone. It's a toxic marketplace for them and that encourages all the sniping of their product by "experts" for a variety of reasons. My 2 cents.
I think there's also an issue of dealer service. Ferrari / Maserati dealers should be OK. But a lot of dealers are just Maser. If you pay $300K for a sports car you don't want to see it in a service department filled with with $50K Ghilbi's. If you order one you pay sticker. If its dealer new stock sitting in a dealer showroom probably not. Spiders probably the exception at paying full price. I don't know myself but from seeing what's at my dealer, I would say that's pretty close. When this thing first came out most of us thought it should be about $150K base to really be a hit. $180K for a new spider.
The MC20s fate seems to have been at least partially determined by the brand's reputation the Ghibli and QP built recently, which is one of high depreciation and far too many visible borrowed parts from Chryslers/Jeeps. Parts swapping as much as they did at that price point of a car is just a jab in the eye. Ferrari/Lambo buyers wouldn't put up with it either, which lead to huge depreciation in short order. The brand was cheapened. That reputation was what they brought the MC20 in with and here we are, regardless of what a gorgeous and fantastic machine it is. That said, Mclaren's also depreciate quite a bit. The Ferrari badge is a powerful thing
That's been a time honored practice @ Ferrari, Lamborghini and Maserati all the way back to the 1960s. There is a lot of Maserati hate amongst car "journalists" and on forums. The latest iteration of the smaller QP6 the labeld as a Ghibli and the QP6 itself are not beautiful cars. The QP5 and Granturismo are quite handsome with the later also having been overpriced. I see the Chrysler infotainment in recent Maserati's as a welcome upgrade from what the used in the QP5 and 4200. The way Ferrari's maintain their value certainly is a magical thing. One might even call it a cult or a conspiracy to maintain value for owners. Mercedes AMG vehicles don't treated like that are they also POS cars? Most high priced cars devalue rather quickly and then some, the lucky ones get a resurgence later on ... on places like BAT ... at least for a while until the market resets. You know what doesn't depreciate? The price of servicing them. You know where that equation leads ... deferred maintenance and the boneyard accompanied by a lot of beotching. I just spent $7,500 resurrecting my 2005 Jaguar STR because it has 60K miles, it's a gorgeous, very quick, comfortable nice GT sedan but I'd be lucky to get that for it used. Most people look at equation and say no.
'Visible' changes, not things like stalk switches or window switches, but I constantly hear about the cheap Chrysler infotainment system, that one really bugs people.
So should they have paid for a custom one? That would raise prices even higher. I bet Lamborghini utilizes a lot of Audi/VW parts right? Do people complain about how it works in the Dodge Charger, Hell Cat and Jeeps? AFAIK it works with apple car play and Android Auto. Or is the problem that cars that they would never buy also use this system? Personally I think any of them that use a touch screen are dangerous as hell. But that's just me and nowadays they ALL do that. The newest system I have is a 2015 Lincoln and it's MS based. The voice control ain't so great. I'd guess they're all much better now.
explain how Boardwalk Maserati doesn't have any new or used MC20's available at the moment? @SAFE4NOW? A year or more ago their showroom and inventory had a dozen or so. Not for sure, but I think in DFW market Boardwalk might have sold 50-100 MC20's just on their own. Did management make a decision no MC20's now? https://www.boardwalkmaserati.com
Hmmmm.... What was the question again? My opinions only: We don't have any pre-owned MC20, most likely because those that have them, are keeping them. When we got coupes in as trades towards the spiders, those that wanted a coupe, but were unable to get one due to limited inventory, purchased the trade in's, and seem to be happy with them now. I don't remember having a dozen at one time, but over 4-6 months, we delivered that many to clients. I would like to have said we sold 50-100, but I think that number is closer to 25-30 They are fantastic cars, I would consider trading my Trofeo to get into a coupe, but I enjoy the utility of the SUV that the coupe doesn't have...... Steve
Ohh cool, so basically not a ton sold in DFW area, none currently available, and current owners holding on to them. Thanks Steve.
Plus the Levante with that V8 handles pretty well to boot. What made me a bit reticent to bite is that the seats seemed a bit too firm for me. I want luxurious comfort in an SUV.
There was a commenter over in the Maserati Reddit group claiming to be a Maserati dealer. They let a Cielo go for about $100k under MSRP and still had two more to unload. I think Maserati did a terrible job launching this car and sort of shot themselves in the foot.
OK, but whald should they have done? Building NO cars anymo`...? IMHO the MC20/Cielo is a very good car and it had been elected as "Car of the Year" by the UK magazine CARS, and they knew how good the car is. The main problem Maserati has today is their very very bad marketing! The the not very good dealer network in the US. Another example here from ol`Germany: The city of Düsseldorf is one of the wealthiest cities in the Fatherland. Ferrari is, there, McLaren, Aston Martin, Porsche, Bugatti and Lamborghini are there. Maserati is NOT there. They prefer to send their potential customers to the not-so attractive and much smaller city of Wuppertal, 30 miles away... And while Ferrari had automobile highlights in every decade (288GT/F40 in the 80s, F50 in the 90s, Enzo in the 2000s, LaFerrari in the 2010s and Daytone in the 2020s) from which the company benefits until our days, Maserati had only the notorious Biturbo in the 80s/90s and then the great MC12 in the 2000s. Maserati lacks its consistency in product development and placing. And while Ferrari won Le Mans last year and this year, Maserati send the MC20 to the GT2-class (Ok, here Maserati isquite successfull) which is not so attractive for the media. And even Maserati itsself does not promote that race serie very well. It will take a long, long time to establish Maserai again as one of the great players in the exotic car market. But it can be done...look at McLaren!
Well of course they need to build cars but the launch of the MC20 was launched with very little fanfare. You could barely find a review of the thing! Yet it’s turned out to be an amazing car and I’d argue, good value. The brand itself just doesn’t get out of its own way. They haven’t established their worth in the market place or made any steps toward improving the “bad image” they’ve allowed to linger. From my experiences at the newer local Maserati dealers in my area Id say they were better suited to selling Kia’s than $100k+ luxury cars. I know that’s not to say all are like that, but the customer experience isn’t great from what I’ve seen
I am a MC20 coupe owner so I have an interest in this thread.i agree with almost everything that has been said about Maserati and it is unfortunate that they have done such a poor job of marketing a car that I have found to be a very good product in performance and reliability.My car when I purchased it was on a dealer MSO with a sticker of 305,000 and I paid 122,000 under that.The discount on the BAT Notte is not unique to MC20s.The MC20 is not the only deprecating cars in this market,just look at McLaren 720s,Porsche TTS,Ferrari SF90,Mercedes AMG,Aston Martins,RR,Bentleys,BMW7 series,Lambo Urus,and many other desirable cars.If I had purchased my car at or near sticker I would not be pleased but the market has spoken and great MC20s are available for 170-200 and still with 2 years of factory warranty.I think the lines of the body are really appealing and the number of people that have never seen one have nothing but a positive response.I will purchase a Lambo or McLaren in the next year but I plan to keep the MC20.
