Wow big number - Including headers i guess? Or just muffler and cats? I think i paid the same for novitec but maybe that includes an x pipe
200 cell cat downpipes, xpipe, midpipe, valved exhaust + valve controller + install cost worth every penny though, sounds epic
My PTU broke this summer, if you want to put it to some kind of record. Was 330 000 SEK to fix it (about 33k dollar), fortunately my insurance covered it. The dealership told me the PTU had a new article/product number in their systems, which could mean that it's had a major update – maybe Ferrari finally fixed the actual flaw now?
Thank you for the info and sorry to hear of your trouble but glad that you had warranty coverage. Please can you tell us which year the car was registered (and if 2016, whether it’s FF or Lusso) and how many km it had on it when the PTU failed so that I can add it to the database.
how does he know though? Has he got some PS visiting him already? I doubt as they are 100% still covered by OEM warranty...
Based on another thread in which someone enquired about PTU failures (knowing when they might occur and which years at risk), I thought I'd do the math on the data contributed by FChatters. As it stands, we have 41 recorded failures. We know how many cars Ferrari produced each year from the annual reports so we can calculate the failure rate for any given year based on the reported failures. The results are quite interesting and suggest that; 1) older FFs are not necessarily more failure prone (ironically, it's quite the reverse) and 2) the Lusso PTU is not necessarily more reliable than the FF PTU. Ferrari improved the cooling but also upped the power transfer thereby placing more strain on it as well. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Perhaps I’m not understanding the wider issues people are concerned about with the FF. For the PTU we have a fix. Not just a repair but an actual fix for the issues that cause failure via Parkes Performance / SS AutoTech at a manageable price for a one time fix. The DCT I am less up to date on, but from the thread it seems this can be done by Ferrari or possibly cheaper by a third party? The other items are issues all cars face when they get older. Radiators, leaks, alternator etc. Other than the battery which fails early on the FF (not sure about the Lusso but presumably the same)
I agree with you. About the battery Hollywood Mechanics says the problem is the same for all V12 Ferraris, and that they're working on a kit to relocate it to the trunk that'll be around 1000-1500$ + labor (which I'm going to buy).
Why bother? For the cost of the kit and installation, you can buy 10 lead acid batteries which will last you 20-30 years depending on how often you want to change them.
The PTU was once a 35k liability until independents started to repair or modify the PTU which has only happened in the last few years. So I guess the memory of the issue lingers on. The DCT is the same - it was once a huge liability. Complete replacement was the only option (at another 35k) but Ferrari has now trained its own mechanics to repair them at a third of the cost.
That's true but my latest battery (Ferrari original that was more than 1000$) lasted for 6 months. And the last 3 months is not nice, the car feels slow started etc. This time I changed to another brand, which was about 600$ with labor. I can't change it myself. I'm just tired of it.
On this, what is the latest with a lithium upgrade for the FF? Someone mentioned it earlier in the thread and it didn’t sound like people viewed it positively?
Lithium has the nice ‘get out of jail’ boost facility but other than that, it’s super expensive and for the price of one lithium battery, you can buy eight SLA batteries which will last you 16-24 years depending on how often you want to change them. Lithium is also susceptible to the engine bay heat which kills the SLAs so it’s not a solution to the underlying cause of battery death.
Thanks - Well that solves that then I suppose - the main advantages are weight (which isn't really applicable) boost and in theory they should last longer than SLA. However it sounds like the heat will finish them off quickly
Agree completely about the PTU and DCT concern. There are actual solutions to the OE units now. Each owner should just set aside $ to cover it if/when they need work. The cost is no longer astronomical, and we know how much to prepare for. Just self-insure against it. Regarding the battery, I just had mine replaced in my ‘17 Lusso. Unsure how old the one in the car was when I bought it about 9mo ago, so I just had it replaced. Was about $1200 ($900 was labor…). I also purchased the updated CTEK 7002 charger as recommended by somebody on here. Get their SEMA builder kit and it’s actually cheaper than buying it individually and comes with a bunch of accessories. I daily drive mine and just keep it plugged in at night. Put about 1000mi on it since replacement and haven’t had any bizarre transient warnings since.
Good grief. 900 bucks for a 30 minute job???!!! I’d be querying the time spent or the labour rate charged.
Yeah, I know mine is exceptional. They've been searching long and many time for the issue causing it. How often do you drive it? When you drive it, how do you drive it hard? When you don't drive it, do you always keep it on a tender?
So far mine has lasted nearly three years. I trickle charge it occasionally but not all the time. In the three years I've done about 13k miles in it. I am just budgeting for a new battery every three years currently. If it lasts that long I'll be happy. Looks easy enough to install I'll order one and do it myself. I was interested in the lithium option as per the above post but with the cost and lack of any real advantage I can see, I'll stick with the stock I think.
