Ferrari F80 - The most dissapointing Halo F

All true, except the F80 is an ugly duckling.

 

The engine won lemans... Twice.

The car is faster than the w1 through 150mph.

Faster than the t50.

Faster than likely all of them around a track.

The car is 4.4 seconds a lap faster than the laferrari around fiorano... A fairly small track.


That is an eternity.

I don't think people understand how fast it is.

But if you want a v12 car with soul ... Buy an sp3.

Ferrari offers both.

The anniversary cars are the pinnacle of Ferrari race tech.

The icona series is for beauty style...

The f80 is not for Instagram ****bois

 

If they really wanted to make boring and superfast, they could have gone all electric with small batteries. It would have no range but would be super-fast around Fiorano. If's that's what you're looking for in a Ferrari.

 

Or you could just buy a used 488 Challenge for $180K and go faster around Fiorano dozens of times until you run out of gas or tire and it would be anything but boring.

Street car lap times are kind of pointless because almost nobody ever uses them on a track, nor would you really want to.

Street cars should have a soul, not a lap time. [I'm trademarking that so don't even try to steal it, ha]

 

I wonder how the next one (HALO) will look like...

 

These cars will never be seen on track by the owners, so the track time is negligible.
The V6 has nothing to do with the past of Ferrari (ok, know the Dino which was not a Ferrari). And I don’t care about the present race cars. If the regulations vote vor 3, does the the next halo have this number of cylinders?
FWD 6V for the new super car? Not for me. And why… 1200 PS? But again, nearly no owner will drive this car ever on street or on track it is another garage queen, unfortunately.

 

Haters are going to hate...

 

So why complain about the engine? If it's just a garage queen?

Might as well be a pedal car right?

 

I swear people just want Ferrari to be Paganini

 

How many threads for f80 to talk same thing?????? If you are not owner don’t overthink it.

 

Buy an sp3. I mean. It sounds like you want an sp3.

I don't think you understand the brand that well. I don't think you understand this models role in the line up.

You talk about the laferrari not having an f1 deprived engine... But the hybrid pack was... That was the f1/kers sytem.

I get what you want. I understand and that's what I want too.

But... It is not the roll of a luxury brand to give you want you want. I know that sounds crazy... But it's true for all successful luxury brands.


I'm going to be honest with you. I hate 4.0 literally v8s. Everyone makes them. It's in everything. You can buy an Audi station wagon with one or a McLaren... Or an Aston... Or probably next year a Nissan rogue. Doubling up 2.0 4 cylinders for cost savings and selling it as some advantageous V8... I'm over it. It's so generic.

Look at the sacrilege of Lambo dropping the 10 cylinder.

 

I appreciate your enthusiasm and the conversation but the last sentence is just a mile off.

I really don't think you understand how fast 4.4 seconds faster on fiorano really is.

The performance of this car is staggering. Absolutely staggering.

Hydro steering is nice but you know what's better... No power steering. So they are all junk compared to that. Plus new electric steering s are so good it's not really an issue. Besides as fast as a f80 is going to go through a corner your not going to have much to complain about.


The performance of the car is next level.

The McLaren P1 isn't a factor and I am going to guess the w1 will be the same soon as well. Just another ultimate series McLaren... Don't worry they will bring another one out in 18 months and another after that and another after that until they are bankrupt.

 

Preach brother, preach!

 

The SF90 replacement will actually be the best buy in Fworld because it will have 1,100 bhp, and and lap Fiorano in 1:18 for 1/8 the price of this VIP soaker.

 

I agree. McLaren just straight up sucks as a brand. The interiors aren’t worthy. Their styling is an eye roller. No artistry in anything they do. Just not compelling compared to Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche. They can’t give them away. They are circling the drain and should have sold to Apple when they had the chance. They need a Lawrence Stroll type figure to take control of them, as he is doing a great job with Aston making it desirable and relavent.

 

and then drop in value another 200k after a few years

 

You’re right about that home slice. However, if they make the styling less of a mish mosh of Ferrari design tropes, the SF90 replacement has a chance to become a ‘regular production classic’ and might depreciate LESS than it’s predecessor. IF…

This is kind of random but what the heck ever happened to F 9000 or whatever his name was, because he originally broke the code information that the SF 90 looked ‘like a spaceship’ and even through the styling sucks he was right about that …

 

i think the design is ok it doesn't wow me like an Enzo or SP3 but i don't hate it. it just kind of a run of the mill generic hypercar design.

what does bother me is all the complexities... 5 electric motors? 2 for spooling the turbos? active aero? this car is like a mish mash of technology and does anyone care how all that tech is going to hold up after 10 years? what if 1 of the electric motors fails? 2kw battery replacement?

just seems like a lot of added complexity and points of failure to me. if someone gave me one i'd sell it and buy and SP3 Daytona and a 12 cilindri GTS.

 

I agree on the styling. To quote Dom Delouise in a famous Mel Brooks movie … “Nice. Not thrilling. But nice.”

 

Same but I'd buy an f50 and a f12 tdf...

 

1580 actually,
By the way, have you diven a modern Ferrari with electric steering assistance? There is nothing wrong with it.

I always found that being the worst. It is cumbersome and because the engineers need to make it a bit more usable-light, they make it slower by increasing the ratio. It is no coincidence that even F1 cars have power steering these days.

God forbid, they are fiendishly complex too. A cart and a horse are much simpler. What was wrong with those? Damn technology...

 

You are saying the total opposite of what true Ferrari lovers say. You stated a lot of numbers. They say Ferrari is not about numbers/laptimes.