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DCT life...

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  1. VG221

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    So I’m the new owner of a 15 F12 Berlinetta with 8k miles... I was wondering what is everyone’s experience with the DCT as far as life expectancy? Any tips to help it last longer? I know to keep my foot on the brake at red lights to keep the clutch disengaged. Anything else I should know? Thanks in advance for any feedback.
     
  2. 3POINT8

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    my understanding is that they are built to last the life of the car. i have heard 150k miles or so which is more than these cars will ever see
     
  3. Drive it like you stole it.

    The DCT will outlive you.
     
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  4. VG221

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    Thank you... makes me feel a little better. Lol
     
  5. Art138

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    ‘I know to keep my foot on the brake at red lights” I don’t think you need to do this with DCT.
     
  6. scott61

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    Yea with DCT it's advised to put in neutral at light
     
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  7. AlfistaPortoghese

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    I’m not aware of any Getrag DCT design flaw that could jeopardize its life expectancy, apart from the (in)famous sensors that can be replaced.

    I’m also not aware of any specific issues regarding the transmission that would lead it to fail earlier than any other mechanical component fitted to the car.

    I think a good policy would be to read the owner’s manual carefully to learn more about the DCT’s operation, and change its fluid periodically (I know it’s not absolutely necessary according to the manual, but as with any fluid, it won’t hurt. Quite the opposite).

    Warm the car up, drive it like you mean it, take care of it by maintaining it properly. Rinse and repeat. Better things to worry about in life. Don’t let the anxiety over potential failures ruin your very real driving experience.

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
  8. VG221

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    Thank you for all your responses gentlemen.
     
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  9. MalibuGuy

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    I think that perhaps you have confused this with the old F1 single clutch transmission

    The modern Ferrari Getrag Dual clutch is completely different and you do not need to put the system into neutral at the light.

    there is a dedicated DCT ECU and Ediff. The wet clutch packs will last the life of the vehicle.

    The older F1 hydraulic single clutch system was more temperamental. A lot of owners burned out the single dry clutches quickly not understanding how to warm up the clutch and preserve it by modifying their driving techniques.
     
  10. Il Co-Pilota

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    Well kinda. It is still advised to put it in neutral if sitting for a prolonged time at a standstill. However, this is not worth worrying about as the car will do this automatically after a minute or two.

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  11. The car does it for you automatically if you are on the brakes stopped for an extended duration.

    Like it was said above, just drive the damn car.
     
  12. MalibuGuy

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    Yes go right ahead and put it into neutral at the light.

    I prefer to keep mine in first gear.
     
  13. Il Co-Pilota

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    Uh, that was not what I said or suggested. I said leave it alone and if it goes into neutral, so be it. I'm sure Getrag implemented thjs feature for a reason.

    Don't twist my words please. All I said was that it will go into neutral if it sitz in gear for a prolonged time.

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  14. MalibuGuy

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    Just re read the thread more carefully. The question is how to extend the life of the DCT.
    And the issue of what to do at a light.

    I believe one is just supposed to keep the car in first gear with your foot on the brake.
    Thats what I do. I don’t usually experience the DCT timing out and putting the transmission into Park mode.
    I’ve never seen it go into neutral when ones foot is on the brake,

    Not trying to twist anyone’s words but may have gotten confused with the different various posts.
    If someone here has had problems with the DCT overheating while at the light that would be surprising to hear.
     
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  15. D-Gunz

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    not mine.... its grenaded at 49k miles (2011 Cali / June 2024) still in the shop 2 months later! #FML :(
     
  16. D-Gunz

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    Mine blew up at 49k, speed sensor, odd/even pressure sensors, which requires an entire rebuild (also temp sensor since you are doing all the others!) this is a $20k repair i didn't budget for :(
     
  17. D-Gunz

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    the clutch pack? or transmission? mine blew up at 49k miles... just had it rebuilt June 2024
     
  18. 3POINT8

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    I understood it to be the whole kit and kaboodle. Sorry to hear about your transmission. (good job on the mileage though!)
     
  19. D-Gunz

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    she's my daily driver! going on year 4... Doing some roads trips up/down the coast of CA for Thanksgiving and xmas! so much fun to drive. She will also be spotted at Coachella & #Ragecoach next year ;)
     
  20. 3POINT8

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    love to hear it good work!
     
  21. MalibuGuy

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    I’ve never put the DCT in neutral while at the light
    I’ve got over 200,000 miles of driving experience with Ferraris with DCTs
    So based on my own driving experience I don’t think that extends the life of the box
    Changing both fluids may help to keep the plastic seals from chemical deterioration.
    Here in So Cal there is an excellent mechanic who has a specialty in servicing and repairing these boxes. Hollywood Mechanic in Newbury Park, CA
     
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  22. D-Gunz

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    I got my DCT rebuild kit from them! great resource of knowledge...
     
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