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Is this normal

Discussion in 'FF/Lusso' started by KingKongAintGotNothingOnMe, Nov 14, 2024.

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  1. KingKongAintGotNothingOnMe

    Nov 13, 2024
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    Wayne, NJ
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    robert hunka
    Hey ferrari community, new to this chat site and a proud ferrari owner (2012 ff) for 4yrs now. My question to the community may be stacked, here goes- So I've owned my ff for 4yrs now, bought it with 28k mi, and now has 48k mi so I'm driving it around 5k mi/yr. When I bought the car and got it sorted, I knew there would be maintenance, services, repairs, etc. The first 3yrs of ownership, I've replaced both front shocks, had some oil leaks from bad gaskets, replaced one of the catalytic conv, and some other service work that I can't exactly recall, however, this yr, so far, has been a killer. I've had to do valve covers (12), brake pads and rotors, and just brought it in for the 3rd service of the yr for a check engine light and the tech told me that I'm most likely going to need new injectors, I'm starting to feel like the service part of owning my ff is starting to outweigh the benefits and fun of driving. Has anyone had similar experiences as far as age of car, miles driven, multiple times of shop appts for repairs? Is this normal as ferrari's age and mileage starts to climb? Or, hate to ask
    this........do I have a lemon? Any feedback would be great-thank you in advance
     
  2. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 26, 2005
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    Gates Mills, Ohio
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    Jon
    You might get more specific advice in the FF/Lusso forum below.

    As far as a lemon, probably not from a legal standpoint. At least in California a lemon is defined as a car with an issue that has not been resolved in three attempts. I believe it applies to new cars, not resale.
     
  3. dilmorecg

    dilmorecg Rookie
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    Jul 24, 2023
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    I cant comment on experience in this situation. Im a new ferrari owner (6mo.) and my FF only has 17k miles. I would fully expect to have higher maintenance at that type of mileage. In my mind I budget $5-$10k per year on maintenance/repairs for this type of car. Although you may be over that in just brakes alone. Have you ever had your PTU done?
     
  4. KingKongAintGotNothingOnMe

    Nov 13, 2024
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    Wayne, NJ
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    robert hunka
    Had the ptu serviced earlier this year during yearly oil change/fluid service, at the time the car had around 44k mi. Yeah, brakes & rotors were almost 20k. I was thinking about upgrading earlier this yr to either a newer ff with lower mi or a lusso with lower mi so I asked my ferrari tech, fonz. He kinda took me off that idea saying that bc I've already done so many repairs, if I buy something with less miles-I'd prob have to go thru all of the same repairs on a newer version of the car. Not sure what to do at this point but first 3yrs of ownership were around 15k/yr, this yr alone I'm around 40. If the future of owning a higher mileage ferrari is going to look like this, then I prob have to get out of this car soon. My tech, and other people have said, "you should drive these cars", which I'm doing lol, but at what expense-is the million dollar question I guess.
     
  5. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    Aug 22, 2002
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    What basis is there to replace all the fuel injectors? Did he test all of them? There shld be no need to replace fuel injectors at 44k miles right?
     
  6. KennethCDO

    KennethCDO Karting

    Apr 28, 2023
    76
    The carbon ceramic rotors should outlast the life of most of these cars. Thats insane that they replaced those as well. I’d find a new mechanic.
     
  7. KingKongAintGotNothingOnMe

    Nov 13, 2024
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    Wayne, NJ
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    robert hunka
    No, didn't replace all the fuel injectors, he said that the fuel injectors are in "bays" and that it was possible that he'd have to replace one of the bays. Upon, diagnostics, it actually turned out that there was a misfire on cylinder 8 and, believe it or not, there was a defective spark plug from the manufacturer that was causing the problem. So, I guess when the valve covers were replaced, along with plugs, one of the plugs turned out to be no good
     
  8. KingKongAintGotNothingOnMe

    Nov 13, 2024
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    Wayne, NJ
    Full Name:
    robert hunka
    Supposedly, the car notifies you that the rotors need to be replaced based on an internal algorithm that keeps track of how many times the brakes are depressed, at what speeds, and the pressure associated during all breaking throughout the life of the brakes and/or rotors. The brakes had been previously changed, and they weren't fully worn, but my mechanic told me it would prob be better if we replace them at the same time so I wouldn't have to keep returning and while he was already replacing rotors at the time. The guy I bought the car from was def driving hard before I purchased it. Also, the rotors had a glossy look to them, supposedly that's a sign that they are on the latter part of their life.
     

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