Sounds like I have an allocation. Should I be suspicious?

would 100% get an 812SF - it's unlikely you'll be any faster on the roads in the 12C in real terms unless you're a racing driver on clear roads

 

Take a look at the thread regarding specs started by Cadster

Its very easy to build 80- 90k in options

How to build a low cost car
Choose the no charge paints
Standard wheels
standard exterior
standard interior
no homelink
ni heat insulating glass
manual seats
no LED steering wheel

When it comes time to sell price the car less than any orher cilindri with similar miles by about 10-15percent

 

The standard car is a nice piece of kit!
Do you get much of a return on expensive options when it comes time to sell?

Perhaps the only options which help at time of sale are LOGO (Shields) and LEDs on the steering wheel

Everything else ?

I have to remind myself that cars are not investments.

 

Correction…there’s no option for “no charge” paints. The base paints (Rosso Corsa, etc) are $13,700.

 

OMG You are correct !

Foggit aboutit!
Ill order my 12 cilindri Primer only I know a paint guy!

PNTA are the cheapest paint $6,450

Metallic paints start at $13,700
My red 360 and red Cali and Nero Daytona 458s and Silver F8s --those colors were all at no extra charge.

Ok So maybe this would be a bare bones car
Red or White non metallic color
LOGO badge
Leds steering wheel
Everything else standard trim
How does that sound?

 

Wait there aren't no cost colours anymore? I thought Rosso Corsa, Giallo Modena, Blu Pozzi etc were free, then "PNTH" Blu TdF, argento nurburgring, Verde British etc were $13.7k. Or maybe that was true for 296, and 12Ci is different?

 

Around $10500 for Rosso Imola for me

 

Roso corsa should be free. It was free on my 296 and also was free a few months ago when I did the configuration for my 12Cilindri.

 

I struggle to understand why some colors are more expensive than others. Beyond the multilayer or metallic finishes to a point. Colors are just colors, you can name them historic or divine or fascinating, but in the end, it's quite beyond sanity.

 

Automotive colours differ in composition and cost both in terms of chemistry, as well as that of the application process. Of course there is some marketing involved too, but all colours do not cost the same to make and apply.

 

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Thanks for the explanation, I would dare ask for a bit more of elaboration since happily, you know more than many do and would love to understand a bit more about a thing that has always been a mystery to me.

 

If you knew the amount of the margin, you wouldn't believe it....

 

I don’t know why it’s hard to work out that margin is irrelevant? It’s only important what a customer sees value in. Somebody mentioned Rosso 1000GP, which was many thousands more than a very similar colour. But he couldn’t unsee the fact that he preferred 1000GP. Fair enough, but you pay for that. He will end up with a unique car, exactly to his taste, but expensive. When you pay $500k for a Ferrari, another $30k to have a beautiful car built to look exactly the way you want, is that value? To pay $30k less and not have what you want could easily sound like worse value.

 

Totally agree, which is why I really never wavered in my desire for Rosso 1000GP despite the onerous price of admission.

 

I wanted to say is that sometimes, when you see the cost of production and the margin, it becomes indescent.... Aston Martin makes the most beautiful paintings in the world for a quarter of Ferrari's margin...
Afterwards, if everyone is happy to overpay, I'm fine...
I make the difference between paying and overpaying.

 

These are the "standard" no cost colours for the car. All are flat, non-metallic finishes.

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OK So there are still colors at no charge available for rhe 12C?!

 

There is price for the code EXTC on the Price List and the Personalization guide states them as being "the standard exterior colour offer" so yes, these are the no charge options in terms of paint choices. This list of 8 flat (non-metallic colours) replicates the options on the 296 in terms of the no charge paint colour choices.

 

That should read "there is no price for the code EXTC"...

 

In the past Nero Daytona and silver Argento and Grigio were all no charge paint

Ferrari is now charging $13,700 for the same paint (PPG)

As a customer I have the right to complain.

Its not about being cheap and settling for an ugly Ferrari which costs $600,000.

 

I love how these items are priced. I remember building a car (maybe the 812 gts) and we got the wheels. One option was $$ and the other was $$$. I said, but what wheel comes in the Msrp of the car..these are all more cash…what’s the base wheel. We kind of stared at each other for a minute and he said, you have to pick one of these options and that there wasn’t a base wheel. Maybe we were missing something but seemed crazy to me. Kind of like the first 911 I bought and the dealer told me floor mats were extra

 

Interesting Grigio Scuro as standard. It used to be in the "historic colours" range.

 

This was the standard cast finish rim for the 812 GTS. It could be optioned in Grigio Corsa matt finish as well. It's amazing how many sales staff don't appear to know the product they sell.

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So back to the idea of choosing a no charge color
I believe that all are glossy non- metallic PPG paints.

Red (Corsa), dark red (Mugello), Black (Nero), dark blue (Pozzi), yellow (Modena), White( Avio)?

Which colori suits your eye?

 

Don’t you have the right to not buy rather than complain? It’s up to them what they charge. If you think it’s ugly, sounds like you’ve already exercised that right.

There is no rule that links cost and price, only value and purchase decisions, where value is a subjective element. That’s why some buy and some don’t, applying to all products.

There’s no doubt fewer colours are free these days and the cost of others is very high. I guess that’s the times we live in