Hi On the above are all painted internally black (over the factory paint) ? Also does the textured surface contain asbestos! ?
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While I don't have much personal experience with Dinos, I do with Daytonas in which most of the originally used insulation & paint/bodywork materials contained asbestos and/or lead and given that the coachwork on both models were produced by Scaglietti at the same timeline, I wouldn't be surprised if same materials were used in Dinos.
The original finish was a light textured schutz type finish in satin black. Depending upon your chassis number the satin black was also applied to the shutline areas under the front bonnet, engine compartment and rear boot/trunk. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thank you Before I start to strip the underside of the panels, what is the consensus on asbestos? Ray
I personally don't think this coating contents asbestos but nobody will ever guaranty you that. We have had the same discussion about the white heat isolation wool used in the heat shields and in the boot on US cars (308 with cats etc) and I have never heard of anyone having it tested and proven. If you fear for your health either get it tested negative or get it removed in a safe manner. Safe manner differs from region to region but common sense prevails: P2 disposable mask or a half-face respirator mask. Disposable coveralls , gloves, hair protection, boots etc. suitable to the task. Enclosed environment that can be safely and thoroughly cleaned so pollution to external environment is avoided. I removed the old coating on my even older than yours 246 without even considering asbestos.... Best regards, Peter
Wise move - Cannot recall anyone getting this material tested but be on your guard. Crysotile (White) Asbestos was used in lots of products in the 70's including artex coatings (on ceilings) and floor tiles etc. Please post results for future reference. Best Regards tony
Email from the lab today “The sample issued of bitumen is positive for asbestos” !!! very surprised Certificate to follow Image Unavailable, Please Login
I would guess "white asbestos" Chrysotile. It was readily mixed in these & other finishes to provide heat insulation properties. Nasty stuff. I would also strongly recommend you treat the firewall material with the same caution. I have lost several friends over the last few years through asbestosis.
Very nasty ! I assume the inner door insulation to be the same. I am very surprised that this information isn’t all over the internet
Not surprising at all. Anyone who's been around (vintage) cars long enough* should know all this. Asbestos has been commonly used in automotive components & materials, including brakes, clutch, gaskets, insulation, etc, for over 100 years and still used in some. *Having restored and worked on countless vintage cars in past 45 years, I've probably been more exposed to asbestos, lead and other "unhealthy"(?) chemicals than most here and some day may have to deal with the consequences ... OTOH, having become aware of their "nastiness"(?) over 30 years ago, I have taken some measures over the years to minimize the exposure.
Working in a industry the regularly came across asbestos products this comes as no surprise unfortunately as it turns up everywhere. I would treat all coverings of this type to contain asbestos, whichever one it turns out to be. Amosite is another type of asbestos known to be encapsulated in toilet cisterns and would you believe floor tiles, it has high insulation properties as well so it could be that one. A specialist removal company is the best option imho, dont try it yourself as the ill fitting masks you buy online are not up to filtering the fibres, you will need a full face mask and then you may have contaminated your clothes / protective suit & working area etc. It needs to be removed in a negative pressure chamber for total safety. Best Tony
Thanks for the verification Ray - Well done. Asbestos is really a nasty contaminator as mentioned before and it doesn't take many inhaled fibers before one could have increased risk of developing serious lung cancer. This is a big issue is Denmark where the majority of all roof materials traditionally have been produced by asbestos causing more than 300 hundreds fatalities per year over the last many years. Removing these roof's are now a complicated and very costly affair using tents with negative pressure, full body and fresh air protection and controlled disposal. Best, Peter
I thought the old school trick was to keep everything wet so the fibers couldn't get airborne. Seems using a chemical stripper would keep the fibers at bay.
Keeping the material wet is one choice but when it dries it can become airborne. A PVA solution is a better solution which provides a sticky base coat and sets when dry. I would still get it stripped professionally though.
