Hello everyone, i’m new here and i’m planning to have a gt4. the one i’m looking for is a nice one in blue, i have done a lot of research, but you may have this answer. The Ferrari badge replaced the dino one in 1976, can it be possible that a 1979 had the dino badge if requested ? thank you Guilhem Image Unavailable, Please Login
An Owner might have preferred using the Dino badge during a respray. Or "model year" was more defined by the gov't paperwork than the car itself in Europe in those years (i.e., the "year" can get changed when the car moves country to country -- there might be a door jamb label on it showing when manufactured). Just some thoughts...are those yellow headlights French or Belgian or something?
I doubt it very much. Probably changed at a later date. Would be interesting to know if it is recessed. The original Dino badges were recessed whereas the Ferrari badges were not. Interestingly the car has Ferrari badges on the wheel centres.
This was fitted after it left the factory . Do you know the chassis no ? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Its a beautiful GT4 and I thought I had seen it before. Here is a video from a classic car media company Petrolicious that featured your car: As far as the badge - no cars past '76 should have dino badges. It would be interesting to know if it is recessed or flat on the nose. If it was recessed, whoever did the restoration went through a lot of work to indent the panel. When the badge change was ordered by the factory, it was to the dealers with cars on the lot. They were instructed to remove the old dino badge, smooth it fluch with body filler and drill new holes. Some cars can see the outline of the filler through the paint, like on my car. So if you were to concourse your car and have it judged - you may look to see if the current badge is recessed. If not feel under the metal from the back side to see if there was one there but it was filled in from the vertical ferrari badge shape to the horizontal dino put your hand under there and feel from under the metal. If your dino badge is recessed it would be inaccurate. then you have the horse badges on the wheels - they make aftermarket dino ones if you want to go that far. Honestly, your car is stunning. I would enjoy and drive it as much as possible. Good luck on the purchase!
Hello, thank you all for your precious answers. There is a recessed on the nose, and the owner who have it from 1982 say it was always a Dino badge, and it came like this from the factory…
I don't know if the one in the video is the same car as it has a different number plate and a Ferrari nose badge. But it does look similar. @guilhem74 - What is the chassis number for the one you are looking at?
No it is not the same car. the chassis Number is 15280 Is there a possibility to have the full info without asking Ferrari ?
I have a database of chassis numbers on my site: https://308gt4.com/1979-chassis/ You could try asking Marcel Massini (he's on this forum), he'll usually give you the info that's in my database plus pertinent numbers (like engine, transmission, body). He access to all sorts of great records. In regards to the badge, There's a couple of different places that notes the switch to "Ferrari" badges was 1976, but exactly when in 1976 is often up for debate. But certainly no cars left badged as a Dino after 1976. I have a blog post that touches on the whole badging thing if you want to read it: https://308gt4.com/2024/03/02/always-a-ferrari/ Long story short, if there's Dino badge on a car later than 1976 it was likely put there after a repaint of some sort, it didn't ship from the factory that way.
The selling dealer could contact Pozzi to ask for the original paperwork. Pozzi marketing department mail address [email protected]. They will not provide information if you can't prove that you own the car. I don't think the Dino badge is original but changed during the respray where it was changed from Blue Dino to the current Blue Sera It seems to be a nice car but I have some doubts about the mechanical condition. Pictures of the engine show some sloppy maintenance... Condition of chassis, steering and suspension probably also worn and neglected for a long time. Erik
Does the owner from 1982 have a history of the car from build in 1979 to 1982? I would say it is highly improbable that it came from the factopry with that nose. More likely that iot has had an accident and the has been replaced, as per post no 6 in this thread. Nose damage was not unusual and at that time there would have been plenty of spare parts and maybe by accident or on purpose they chose a nose with an indent. I think it would be almost impossible that it left the factory like that.
Ok noted for the nose, but in fact it is ok for me. I have to go see it, but from what i have see the paint is beautiful and all pannel well adjusted. I have seen other and they are not like this, changing the badge at some point if i want is no big deal. Regarding the Paint, color is Blu Dino 6338006, it has been repainted in that color "normally" From my Research the Salchi color Blu Dino 6338006 is different than the Glasurit Blu Dino 106-A-72 is that correct ? Guilhem
It is recessed from the factory. I’ve inspected the car in all details a few weeks ago. Matching numbers.
That would be an explanation. All I can say is that the recession looks very original from the backside. Engine is running smooth, chassis, brakes and suspensions need some work on it.
The later Blu Dino is a bit darker. For me the color was ok. The leather of the interior need some patience.
It's very hard to compare the old paints. My GT4 is Blu Dino, not now original paint, and is slightly different from a friend's which is also Dino Blu. I had thought that GT4s all had Glidden Salchi paint but I then found Ferrari switched to Glasurit during production. I have seen a date of June 78 mentioned but looking at the data from the Ferrari Beverley Hills Registry which Chris Dyer has used on his site you will see that Blu Dino code for the earlier cars is 106-A-72 which will be a Salchi code and the later ones are 6338006 which will be Glasurit. The first car I can find with a Salchi code is 14920 from June 1979. So your car in question would have started life with Glasurit paint whereas mine(14302) would have had Salchi.
Also to be fair and ground expectations, by now any cosmetically decent GT 4 will have had paintwork .Either restoration or accident damage . As far as correct badging it’s wrong technically, but there are so many combinations of horses , rear end badges , nose badges , mirrors , wheel centre caps , steering wheel horn button , stereos , door card cutting for speakers , even wheel combos and exhaust tail pipes combos - etc etc . Vague info from the factory record keeping leaves just internet “ folk lore “ . If you like it buy it but remember it’s under the skin the mechanical history that where the potential money pit is going to be . You can if you buy it and get fed up with every one pointing it out at meets etc “ your nose badge is wrong “ easily fill in the recess and place a Ferrari nose badge on . It’s a tiny easily fixable fault . Obviously glaring to this audience and community because we know .
Image Unavailable, Please Login Correct 75 in every detail inc , mirrors , nose badge , Ariel .Front fog s , grill . Chrome wiper blades - But he has “ gold coffin “Stratos wheels so 9/ 10 . Image Unavailable, Please Login Here’s mine @ a car meet . It’s a 77 so correct nose badge , but being a 208 has the wrong colour grills they should be aluminium not black .Point is no body here noticed or even know the difference between 208 vs 308 GT s . Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login It came with the classic ANSA quad pipe exhaust…..so I replaced back to a single pipe as per what I understand was factory OEM . Sure dealers / importers may have fitted a ANSA before the customer collected …..but which is right . 1- How it left the factory? 2- How the first owner collected it from the concessionaire? We as a community will never reach a consensus on this ^ Q ! Image Unavailable, Please Login Rear and …..I think the horse ( 1977 ) is the right size and correct place …..but the rear deck lid “ Ferrari “ probably should be 208GT4 ?? . Note I stripped the black paint off the grill . Image Unavailable, Please Login paint removed from the front grill ^ So my point is this GT 4 s come in many shades of badging and other details . Image Unavailable, Please Login Interior appears unmolested in terms of door cards , stereo , and horn button . Even has the correct trim for a 208 . It’s booked in a the “ Dino meet “ @ st Moritz in June . Image Unavailable, Please Login I have a feeling we will have plenty to talk about Image Unavailable, Please Login You could do a lot worse ^
I saw the ones you posted on the other forum. Wing nuts on the air filter instead of the correct knurled nute and missing ( and correct ones instead of tie wraps) hose clamps on the air hoses are for me signs of sloppy maintenance. But luckily Volkmar reports that the engine is running as it should but he noticed also that there is some work to do on the suspension. Asking price is a bit high in the current market. Erik
https://hotelalbana.ch/files/Albana/PDFs/Veranstaltungen/Dino%202025/int.%2020.%20FCD%20ferrari%20dino%20meeting%20EN%202025%20RZ.docx.pdf
Would have been interested but I am already committed to attending the Chinon Classic weekend which I go to every year and really enjoy. https://chinonclassic.com/ . If it had been the weekend after I would have stayed on for it.
