F8 cat-back exhaust

I put an inconel Novitec exhaiuston my pista spider and it did absolutely nothing. Sound had a moderate pitch change. Need both cats and exhaust if you want a real change.

 

You are going to confuse him . The Pista is different to the F8 . The F8 has GPF unfortunately and will create other issues..

The Pista is perfect out of the box. Open the values and you are done.

 

I felt my Pista was muted and needed a bit more. To each their own. I understand the Pista doesn’t have GPF and the F8 does which makes the cats even more necessary IMO. There are ways around the potential issues around it throwing codes. I think if you go with 250 Cel cats you should be ok. Only speaking from my personal experience. I have an 812 GTS and replaced the cats with Capristo 250 Cel cats and exhaust. Has never thrown codes and I have never used an OBD.

 

nope. Save your money or go for the full pull change out. It's all reversible but it aint cheap - you will need full system plus a tune. But the sound if you do....legendary.

 

Does you 812 GTS have the GPF or were you lucky to have received a 812 GTS without the GPF.

 

On the F8... same for 488...to get the sound you really need to do the full exhaust system but that requires a proper tune and upgraded turbo's mostly for reliability but power as well. It is nowhere near ideal to change any part of the cars system with out address the full system your are taking OEM parts off.

 

I did a cat back only on my 488 (with tune). It's a Ryft Titanium (no valves) and the sound I get at the 3K and 6K RPM window is pure Ferrari. It would certainly be louder across the range with a high flow cat (which I get a taste of in cold start) but with it being pre-OPF, I would say it does the job really well - really the best of everything.

I have a friend with an F8....that OPF just kills any value of a cat back. You have to go full monty to get there.

 

Have you done your turbo's yet? Opening up the exhaust seems to kill them, and definitely doing catless will kill the OEM Turbo. On the 488GTB I had I just pulled the vacuum lines at the valves and plugged them. I could hear that Ferrari sound although it was still muted but I knew it was there. I didn't go further because the car had extra factory warranty on it. I agree you have to go full monty as you said on the F8 for really any sound improvement. I'll tell ya...I am trying as hard as possible to deal with my stock F8 sound...LOL. It ain't easy!

 

On the F8 FWIW, the Ferrari Dealer is pretty supportive of the surgery my friend did. For a time, he was going to sell it and they converted it back to stock and CPO'd the car (he decided against and took it back). His set up is Boden.

On my 488, no turbos. The tune is within the tolerance of the stock turbos and so far, so good. It's nice and spicy too - can punch it in second or third and light up the rear without any difficulty.

 

Being an F8 owner. One would think at some point Ferrari may have a recommendation for exhaust upgrades. I know I'm dreaming, but the thought is amazing !! I believe most ( if not all) F8 owners want more sound. Beyond that the car is perfect and I love it.

 

To fix my F8S sound, I bought an STO for it… lol

 

STO has sound issues as well. You'll need a controller as those valves stay closed until 4k rpm. STO also has a soft limiter.

 

I installed a valve controller for 300 usd. STO can rev to 8500 rpm when warm. No soft limiter like the new cars.

 

By soft limiter I mean when the car is stationary it will not rev past 3-4k.

 

Hm… I got one of the very last STOs from the factory and it can still rev to max when stationary, no issues unless you keep doing it over and over, then the system will limit the revs for just a few seconds to reset and you can do it again.

 

My 812 had GPF. I originally installed sport cats and it was throwing codes non stop. Also went into limp mode multiple times. Replaced them with 250 Cel Capristo cats and Have never had a single issue. I’m about to do a similar setup on my new F8 with Capristo 250 and a novitec exhaust. Hopefully I get the same result. Fingers crossed

 

Well if succeed I guess you will be the first.

 

Faider
Please keep us posted on the F8 exhaust results. So many of us would love to know.

 

Everyone on here said the same thing about the 812 and so far so good.

Def will. Should have everything installed in the next 2 weeks.

 

Did you delete the GPF on the 812 ? Im assuming that you did , just want you to confirm that

 

why switch the cats and not delete the GPF? Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose? Didn’t even know that was possible TBH.

 

OK got you, you removed it .

In the immortal words said in the movie Taken " Good Luck " in removing the GPF from the F8.

 

is it really that bad on the F8? Out of curiosity. It sounds like you’re saying you can change the cats and leave the GPF intact? Didn’t know that wa possible. If so, what’s the downside then? Sound louder due to lower cell but Still muffled?

 

Bigger opening on the cats , removal of the GPF and change the exhaust will definitely altre the sound of the car.

Only thing is I am yet to know anyone that has accomplished it with car issues , warning lights etc.

The F8 everything is electronically connected now.

In the 458 , 488 , Pista you could just open the valves permanently, even change the exhaust and no issues because it was analogue , that is , with pneumatic valves.

BTY I imagine you also don't care about your factory warrantee or any other government legislation. Down here GPF removal is illegal, car will get impounded and a hefty fine.

The GPF effect on the 812 is less than the F8 because its a frond engine car with a much longer exhaust line.

IMO in the end you will have issues. IMO just accept the sound of the F8 and learn to love it.