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Looking at a 296 need some input.

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  1. Darrmill

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    Hi all... coming from a GT3RS (sold), but was firmly set on a McLaren 750S the last month and was just trying to find a spec I liked. But then a friend said, have you seen a 296 GTB, they are in that price range but ugly, but he pulled up a black one and said they are faster than the 750 I heard... So I looked at some online and thought it was a great looking car and the performance was as good as the 750... So I'm here to get a little more info from those that own them personally.

    So some background... I'm NOT a Ferrari person (obviously if I didn't know which one was the 296 when my friend asked). I'm just a car enthusiast who was looking to get a McLaren 750s, because I love their looks and performance. So after looking at some 296 on Autotrader and checking the vids of it and hearing about its performance its a definite Car as an option to the 750s, though I have not test driven one yet.

    I understand all about depreciation on the McLarens (and any super cars), and I heard about the 296 being sort of the step-child to some of the Ferrari people but I don't care about that at all... I will buy used and would be wanting something 2022 or later staying as a max of $400k range, so that should put me in the ball park. Also though I would go with a Spider McLaren, I would prefer the coupe 296.

    Some Questions and answers are appreciated. I should be purchasing a car in the next 30 days 750 or 296 if I find a spec I like so just trying to arm myself since I have no experiance with Ferraris.

    What isssue are know for the 296s?

    Anything in particular to look out for with these?

    What is general reliability like overall so far?

    Would you be afraid to drive one half way acrros the country? Just a question to see if you would think mechanically it would handle a long few day drive?

    What is considered high mileage for one, and is that better being the bugs might be worked out of the car a bit? For example I saw a very nice spec 2022 modle with 4500 miles... that does not bug me but is it a concern?

    Has this V6 proven itself out as reliable yet?

    I have read that Ferrari offers free Services with the Cars, do those transfer on used cars or is it only a transfer for certified pre-owned, or only if you buy new from them?

    Is basic maintenance possible as DIY, oil and filter changes?

    Can I buy additional warranty time, or only on CPO?

    Is buying from a non Ferrari dealer or Pirvate Part a good idea or does Ferrari frown on that if you need services?

    I know depreciation is a known factor.. might be bigger on the 296 because I heard it is not a preferred model... What are the rough price ranges for a good spec 2-3 year old version?

    Any other input about what to look at or for?
     
  2. rsguy

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    Odd. A car enthusiast would absolutely know about a 296 and every other competitor be it Mclaren, Porsche, Lambo, Aston etc because thats the nature of a car enthusiast. Im surprised at the questions you’re currently asking tbh.
     
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  4. greyboxer

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    OP knows nothing about Ferraris but has been lurking here for many years so has presumably somehow missed all the posts which basically answer all his queries !
     
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  5. rsguy

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    Agree. He can’t possibly be for real. And to put himself up as a car enthusiast? Lmao!
     
  6. mkraft3003

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    You are correct. I think every one of their questions had been asked and answered numerous times. Also, very funny to mention depreciation with McLarens where the 296 is one of the worst depreciation cars in recent history. Can buy them 100-200k off MSRP (depending on spec).
     
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  7. RoyalPink

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    I'm surprised he didn't ask if the 296 is diesel.
     
  8. rsguy

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    The original post was quite the story, especially the bit about being a motoring enthusiast and the now sold 3rs, so anything’s a possibility from here on. Im pretty sure its all a put up. Can’t possibly be legit.
     
  9. Jo Sta7

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    Artura, MC20, 296, all smoked. 750S, I’m not sure of values but it has the 720S to create a floor which is actually good for it. Finally McLaren depreciation is less than Ferrari. I’m sure the hybrid 750S replacement will get smoked.
     
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  10. mkraft3003

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    Agree, on all points!
     
  11. Darrmill

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    Oh jeez, thanks for confirming why the "Ferrari Guy" stereotype exists. :rolleyes:. You do realize I did preface in my post that I'm not a "Ferrari guy", so perhaps you might understand how ignorant I assume you must be to call me out in an attempt to show your have a higher "status" by claiming I'm not enough of a "Car Enthusiast" since I don't know about a specific Ferrai Model. Anyone who has taken a Pschology 101 class can see your post is simply trying to put another person down to elevate your own status. Its shows a very weak personality.

    Anyway, in a hope that you will not longer interact with me, or make your ignorant comments I will state that I own an Motorsport aftermarket company that has its products in the top Race Teams in most racing series including IMSA and most other on and off-road Series. We supply an important part to those teams and we are in new Pagani Eutopia, as well as the new Ford GTDs also. We are in thousands of Porsches and 10s of thousands of other performance Cars and beyond. We are actually in many Ferrari's, Lambos too, but I still am not intimate with the models of those cars and do not follow them.

    Last, if you want the same ignorant "internet know-it-all" comments thrown back at you, I can do that super easy. Here you go... I assume you own a Ferrari, you use it as a form of "status" rather than drive it as it was intended. You claim to be a Car enthusiast because you read all the internet articles and vids, know all the specs of each brand and come on forums and try to put people down to make yourself feel your better than them. You strive for being acknowledged as wealthy and someone to look up to by owning a Ferrari. Your not a real "gear head", actually but some guy with money to buy a Super Car and you don't understand your actually a blowhard who couldn'ty spin a wrench or detail the car themselves and would have others do it since you don't know how. Well, that is not a car enthusiast to me.... that just a guy who says "look at me" and who tells everyone they have a Ferrari hoping to impress them.
     
  12. TheMayor

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    Actually someone here should answer this person's questions. They are legit questions for buying a used 296.
     
  13. Darrmill

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    Wow, just read the rest of the posts.... this is fun, a true group of Ferrari guys popping-off like the stereo types. I love it.

    Yes, I will go review the posts and do my own research, I get it now , you guys are true Ferrari guys, and its so funny and cool to see I've gotta show some people the posts.

    Also I have not been on here in many many years so I'm not lurking actually, I was actually true blue honest about my questions and statements. I was ignorant in thinking you guys would be excited to answer about the personal experiances with the cars, like I've done on Rennlist and other sites when people ask questions. But no big deal, I can review the site and get answers. You guys are exactly like they say....funny as hell.

    Anyway I will check out the cars and I if I do get one instead of a 750 I'll be sure to post asking more stupid questions about putting sticker on the Car...
     
  14. mkraft3003

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    #14 mkraft3003, Feb 27, 2025
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    I’ll take a stab:
    What isssue are know for the 296s?
    The main issue is failure of the hybrid system. This is repaired/replaced under warranty. There are other minor issues people have had but nothing too common.
    Anything in particular to look out for with these?
    Nothing in particular. Just get the best spec that you like. The consensus is most people hate the hepatic controls. Go try one and make sure you can live with them.
    What is general reliability like overall so far?
    Other than above with the hybrid failure, reliability has been bullet prof.
    Would you be afraid to drive one half way acrros the country? Just a question to see if you would think mechanically it would handle a long few day drive?
    From a comfort level, and depending on your age, I would not drive more than a few hours. The car is very low to the ground and with the carbon sport seats they are not comfortable for extended time. Other than that there would be no concerns mechanically and it will actually get good mpg if not driven hard. This is personal preference and I’m old
    What is considered high mileage for one, and is that better being the bugs might be worked out of the car a bit? For example I saw a very nice spec 2022 modle with 4500 miles... that does not bug me but is it a concern?
    As with any Ferrari, people consider “high mileage” anything more than 1-2k per year. That’s silly but the prevailing school of thought. Like most Ferrari, the more miles the more depreciation.
    Has this V6 proven itself out as reliable yet?
    Very reliable and they are using V6 in the F1 cars.
    I have read that Ferrari offers free Services with the Cars, do those transfer on used cars or is it only a transfer for certified pre-owned, or only if you buy new from them?
    Yes, transfers to new owner.
    Is basic maintenance possible as DIY, oil and filter changes?
    Not really. With the free 7 years maintenance there would be no reason to do it yourself. Also wouldn’t mess around with doing it yourself and giving them an excuse to void the warranty.
    Can I buy additional warranty time, or only on CPO?
    Yes, anytime before the warranty expires you can add additional years.
    Is buying from a non Ferrari dealer or Pirvate Part a good idea or does Ferrari frown on that if you need services?
    No real difference. You will get a much better price privately but the service won’t matter.
    I know depreciation is a known factor.. might be bigger on the 296 because I heard it is not a preferred model... What are the rough price ranges for a good spec 2-3 year old version?
    Depreciation is huge and they are 100-200k off
     
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  15. Darrmill

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    Is that Carwow drag race video info? Its not so accurate. Few weeks back did demos for 30 mins each in both the 2025 Artura and 750 to see if I wanted to go in the 2025 updated Artura direction. Not even close... off the line feels ok for both but when the turbos spool the 750 goes bonkers... but on launches and drags the Artura could have the numbers since the lauch is helped by the electric, but in real life back to back comparison the differnce is major... 750 was a beast. But Artura was a fantastic car overall, but going from on directly to the other was a pronounced difference.

    Anyway thanks for input on depreciation... I didn't think Ferrari would depreciate faster than McLaren. I'll have review the numbers to get a better understanding.... but I know from my recent research some don't like the 296 so that might give me some leverage on dealing, there are TONS for sale. I did find a spec that I liked online of a 296, but still have to test drive....
     
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    Thank you, very helpful. Appears that its very similar to the McLarens in terms of those basic general questions.

    Thanks for the answer on the question about driving halfway across the country. The reason I ask this is because with the the 3RS I had, I would not hesitated to drive it 2000 miles MECHANICALLY, but yes it was tougher for long hauls due to Carbon seats and stiff suspension, but I did a few quite long trips and even going to Texas. I had faith in that car. So just wondering about the faith owner of 296s have in it mechanically, I know alot of McLaren owners might not say they had complete faith, but I don't know many 750 owners... just some 720 owners..
     
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    See folks. That wasn’t so hard.
    Good response!
     
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    My opinion. I think it's appropriate to ask a few to several questions. But to come out with that big laundry list of mundane and general questions you should already know by your own research irks me for whatever reason. It shows laziness and a willingness to take advantage of a member's time. Again, it's just how I feel. I'd rather go count ants in my backyard.
     
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    Well, it was a little hard to change the color and I even have a few different colors in there!

    Btw, that wreck and fatality the other day was right outside of my condo. I look at that corner on Harmon when I’m in the gym.
     
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    245 of them.
     
  21. goblue22

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    "I know depreciation is a known factor.. might be bigger on the 296 because I heard it is not a preferred model... What are the rough price ranges for a good spec 2-3 year old version? Depreciation is huge and they are 100-200k off"

    I think that's a bit harsh. I'd say depreciation is huge and for the higher 2022 specs (420k+) you are looking around 100k under.

    As a point of reference, a few months ago I paid 90k under for a highly spec'd (438k) 2022 w/5k miles.

    Hope that helps.

    Brian
     
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  22. mkraft3003

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    Sent you a PM
     
  23. rsguy

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    Lol awesome summary of yourself there! Obviously looking in the mirror when you wrote that little spray? Btw a real car enthusiast (genuinely interested in a 296) would already know via various means the answers to these types of questions without any need to hit forum members up.
    Also odd for someone with such incredibly negative opinions of Ferrari owners to even bother considering buying one - akin to fitting the cap to ones own head!
     
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    Invoice?
     
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    I will add this, as a 720S owner. I think MKraft did a nice job answering your questions and he too has (or has had) Mclarens. The 720, which is largely the same at the 750 in the interior, is more comfortable IMO than the 296. Getting in and out of the McLaren is easier because of the large "sill" which in my car happens to be covered with leather than has been scratched by my *ss. The 296 sits lower and I think the first step is trying out the car and the 750 to see how you like them. While the performance is similar when looking at stats, the cars do drive differently on the road and the performance is delivered differently. Echoing a lot of the press, the 750 feels a little more frantic and is more of a hooligan, while the Ferrari is a more polished feeling beast. Both will get you the same place within a tick of each other, but the delivery is much different (so different that I will likely keep my 720 when my 296 arrives). Finally, if you are looking to drive longer distances, I would skip the racing seats. They look cool, but for a longer drive I think they might wear on you. Definitely skip them in the 750 unless you enjoy self inflicted torture. The racing seats in McLaren's are notoriously uncomfortable.
     
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