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Jim Russell owned the car prior to Spector. Fred Simeone acquired the car through broker Martin Eyears who finally closed the deal. There were a few legal issues to resolve before Fred took possession of it.

 

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Replicas.

Marcel Massini

 

All of them. Not a real one in the video.

Good to hear Phil Hill though speaking of his Sebring '62 GTO class win.

 

is this the correct thread:

Girardo sold 4675: https://girardo.com/car/1963-ferrari-250-gto-9/

 

Marcel:

Could you kindly post some photos of 4757GT I once owned with Jacques Swaters and tell us who owns now? Tom Price in LA? Thanks.

 

4675 is now in the MEF Museum - Museo Enzo Ferrari Modena

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Please ! Correct this soooooooooooooooooo ugly nose !!

 

Yikes! Who did that?

 

There are difficult questions to answer...

 

4675 GT was restored by Ferrari Classiche 2010-2012.
Part of the front was replaced and the former one is now hanging on a wall in an office.
Red Book Certification on 20 June 2012.

Marcel Massini

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As it is stated that Ferrari Classiche themselves do not do any work, is it known which authorised carrozzeria made the new nose?

 

Bacchelli & Villa.
Both noses are wrong.

 

Oh, yes. I remember now. Discussed in 2012 in thread here.

 

As I have said many times before, the problem with Classiche and "their" restorations is that the nose on the car now, will always be the "correct" nose in the factory's view.

 

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And all the vintage photos show that they're wrong.

 

Until a next owner pays them to repair it and write another little story in another little book.

 

Only for as long as the real historians are alive or being recognized. The insidiousness of the current situation is they are achieving some success in rewriting history. We see it right here every day.

 

The real (and good) historians will disappear but the period photos will always be there.

 

Evidence will always exist but so will the Maranello propaganda machine.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it"

 

With the advent of Artificial Intelligence even those period photos can be altered.
One more reason for present and future historians to keep physical copies of said photos as well digital copies stored in an off-line device.

 

hope it stays there until june when we'll visit the MEF again

Martin

 

3765 LM is at Bacchelli & Villa being prepared for the Cavallino Classic in Modena in May and interestingly for Classiche Certification.

For it to be Classiche Certified are they going to:

Change the nose back the letterbox slot as when converted to 250 GTO spec by Ferrari?
or
Fit a 4 litre tipo 163 engine and 4 speed gearbox?

If they are going to change the nose will they have enough time before the event?

Surely it wouldn't get certified under the current Classiche rules as the car is now?

See IG post video here.

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And look at 5575GT….
You probably know who restored that car

 

4675 is a tricky case as the car was very seriously crashed in 1965 and very quickly repaired so it could carry on racing. Best described as "looks different now". I always loved the repaired car, seeing it as a sort of a hot rod hybrid between a GTO and a 275 GTB. Looked super-cool when racing in 1966, don't much care how it looks now...