More no respect

Perhaps the financial woes of Maserati in recent days leading to a speculation of a purchase by Chinese company is suppressing the sales prices?

 

Gorgeous Bora, wow, someone got a deal

Talking with someone the other day about Maserati who is sort of hot/cold with the brand, prefers Ferrari, summed it up: "It's not the way the cars look, it's the engines are just not exciting, especially compared to Ferrari", although he is a huge fan of my tuned Merak at 8000rpm....

 

and I see the 72 Ghibli 4.9 spyder was withdrawn...

 

Hog wash, they're plenty exciting and far more durable. Vintage Lamborghini engine can sound great but they're were such a PITA to work on and fragile as well, at least until Ing. Alfieri put the 4 valve heads on the V12. Early Biturbo and 4V engines being a huge exception.

 

+1

 

I looked at that car at Amelia. It was very nice, with hardtop and luggage. Only glaring miss was the lack of headrests.

Ivan

 

I think in general the money is going to today's latest "hypercars". There was a really nice Alfa Montreal. Had a tough time breaking 60K at no reserve. Almost no bidders.

A nice 512BB was kinda just sitting there. No excitement. So I really don't view this as a "Maserati" thing. Its a general trend.

There just isn't the market frenzy anymore for a lot of classics. In general I saw less interest in older cars and more interest in more modern newer exotics. We saw this trend at Monterey last year.

The auction companies are really pushing for more "no reserve" cars in their catalog. Its because, too many would not meet it.

 

From what I've seen, I think the vintage market has been softening for a few years already.. and like it or not, I think Maseratis are leading indicators. Now you've got the addition of a suddenly very wobbly American economy, which could lead to the 'back stop' of buyers stepping into a falling market becoming weakened too.
- Art

 

You're listening to some very biased sources. There is nothing sudden about any economic woes some may perceive. Eliminate the word American you may be closer to the truth. There is a tremendous automotive industry disruption going on as electric vehicles are struggling in sales and German cars in general. Maserati's factories are shuttered and it is in a lot of trouble.

 

Dead right, with the chaos in the last few weeks Gold is what people are buying.....

WSJ: "Gold has exceeded $3,000 a troy ounce for the first time ever on economic uncertainty and safe-haven demand, and it looks well-placed to benefit from macroeconomic tailwinds and geopolitical worries in the long run."

https://www.wsj.com/finance/commodities-futures/gold-exceeds-3-000-with-plenty-of-room-to-climb-further-4cffdd30?mod=Searchresults_pos3&page=1

 

I've decided to have all the chrome bezels/surrounds, on my 3500 GT/T-instrument cluster recast in solid 24K gold, so I can drive my investment.

;-)

 

Don't forget to hire 24/7 security guards when you take it out in public.

 

The Sebring was not as nice as it looked from afar. The paint was very shiny but not perfect in places.

 

The topic of the original post and that of my opinion relate to the vintage/collector car market.

The eco-system of the new car market is something entirely different, in my opinion.
- Art

 

If you believe that the demise of the modern version of a marques value doesn't have an effect on the valuations of said marques vintage cars when they aren't that far removed historically then let me remind you of Maserati's failure with the Biturbo relaunch in the early 80's. I still own an example of each of those cars, both of which I truly enjoy but I'm painfully aware of how it's hurt the marque's valuations.

Unjustly so IMHO. But it was a Maserati failure nonetheless. Maserati has, historically speaking been a very slow learner. I truly wish it weren't so.
I'm headed to Florida in a few week and have just this evening secured the rental of a Levante because I want to evaluate the vehicle for about a week.