488 GTB vs 991.2 GT3RS or 992 GT3 vs 600LT

I guess it all depends on what you're looking for; I cannot really comment on the McLaren but between Porsche and the 488, the main difference is on the track. The 488 is not necessarily slower on the track (provided the brakes are taken care of) but it cannot run intensely lap after lap like the Porsche. The 488 offers more versatility at the price of less focus (which is logical, in a sense).
That's a tough call between the two Porsche if the balance goes their way, but whereas they're closer maybe the difference is similar to that between the 488 and Porsche - the 991.2 GT3 RS is more focused, but being of the next generation the 992 GT3 is not necessarily slower.
For me the 488 was a good compromise (although to release its potential I had to change the brakes), but in the end it's a personal choice.

 

488 is a great all arounder. And if you are doing just a light track day ... More than enough.


Gt3rs is too much for the street and date night.


10k miles per year absolutely rules the McLaren out. You will heavily regret that purchase.


Gt3 or 488 would be the choice with a recommendation to check out a huracan and a turbo s. Both of which will do great with 10k miles per year.

 

A Ferrari Daytona?

Just make sure your life insurance is paid up.

 

I’ve owned two 992 GT3’s and recently almost bought a 991.2 RS after selling my Pista Spider. I went with an F8 instead. I also own an 812 GTS.

Nothing drives like the GT3. The precision and confidence it gives you is unmatched. That German engineering is stellar. BUT, nothing feels like a Ferrari emotionally. The entire experience every time you pick up the keys and hit the ignition is simply on another level from the 911.

Sounds like track is secondary for you, and if so, I think the 488 is a no brainer. If the track is more of the focus, its a tougher call but I’d still probably go 488.

 

What is the basis for ruling out the McLaren? I wouldn’t say that reliability shouldn’t be any different to the 488 and the cost for repairs would also be similar.
I also feel like the 600LT is a superior driving experience and is that car is significantly more rare and are they’re very well priced currently. I like 488’s but they are overpriced relative to the McLaren. I have a 675LT spider so I have experience with McLaren.

 

10k miles a year in a McLaren is going to get extremely costly maintenance wise. Also... I've known of 2 engines lost on 600lt.

The McLarens are insanely expensive to keep running compared to a Ferrari. The parts and repair network is significantly worse as well

 

What specifically happened to the 2 engines? For some reason it seems more common to see tuned McLaren’s putting out 7-800 horsepower and that can significantly effect the durability of the engine. I think it’s irresponsible to make such broad statements about a car company based on anecdotal accounts. McLaren has made at least 25,000 cars since the first 12C in 2011. Of the 25,000 cars, how many of those cars do you have a first hand knowledge of the service history?
I’ve owned Ferrari’s for over 30 years and I know many owners of late model Ferrari’s that would strongly dispute any notion that maintaining a Ferrari is not potentially a very expensive proposition.

 

Great advice.
Gt3 only if manual.

 

The 488 currently overpriced ? that's really surprising given the fact that (according to this forum) nobody wants one because, being turbocharged, it has no soul (whatever that means)

 

600lt out of that list

 

Have ever driven any of these?

 

Like all Ferraris, it carries a premium, and that combined with the big depreciation factor of McLaren really widens the gap. So the 488 either looks overpriced or the McLarens are flat out bargains, depending on your viewpoint.

 

They have the reputation they have for good reasons (leading to the massive depreciation they have), that and the dealer network are their greatest challenges.

 

None of these cars are well suited for 10,000 miles per year....little wonder that there are probably zero 100,000 mile examples when 3 of the 4 have been around close to 10 years.

 

I own 488GTB since 2020 and done about 5000 Miles a year on average. It has been very solid and reliable so far.. i only replaced its tires and battery.and I think its great weekend car, its beautiful, more suited for all around compared to 911 GT3.
I would totally avoid Mclaren for high milage; everyone i know says its unreliable and sets alot of time in the dealership for repairs.

 

25000 miles on original brake pads?

 

Roma, and 296 owners will be happy to hear that Ferrari’s don’t have significant depreciation issues
Feel free to make whatever claims you like. I’m happy to enjoy my heavily depreciated 675LT spider.

 

Well as for the track either of the Porsche's would be my pick. Date night I would go with the 488, cars and coffee you could do the Porsche's or the 488. I have never had a McLaren so can't comment on the 600 LT.

 

If you show up for a date night in a GT3RS, 99% of the women in this world would think you are a complete ******.
"oh look at this boy with his big spoiler".
Most women couldn't care less about exotics.

 

Its now around 29K miles, last week did a service and service center said 70% brake pades remaining. But bear in mind i dont track the car.

 

You forgot to add unreliable....LOL

McLaren builds great cars, like yours (and Harry Metcalfe is enjoying his 650S which is a huge endorsement), but buyers are aware of the systemic issues that have always been a problem. If I end up buying a car this year (the current plan but I am wavering) a 720S spider is at the top of the list.....more value than anything going except for a Corvette Z06. But I will be prepared to spend more money to maintain it compared to Lamborghini or Ferrari. And thankfully I have a dealer 30 miles away.

 

Never had any of those cars. But I did some hot laps in a stock (steel brakes was the only mod) 488 with a pro driver and wow. They replaced it recently. It had 50k miles of solely track time and they said it had been very reliable.

 

Usually track only cars are serviced based on active hours not milleage, so for these 50k miles it probably had 30 to 40 oil and filter changes and a thorough inspection every two or three track days.
Track cars are usually reliable due to meticulus maintenance, whereas garage queens that start the engine once every month or less tend to have more issues.
My mechanic always says that sloth is a deadly sin for a car.

 

I buy and sell these cars. With the majority of my problem cars being murci and McLaren.

I frequently have McLarens with folders with 40k in repairs. I have had more than I can count on one hand with 80k in maintenance and repair.

One an outlier had 87k in repairs and it had 15k miles.

The 720s and the cars with the hydroloc suspension typically need their shocks rebuilt every 2 years at a cost of 2k a corner.

Had to buy a rear window for a 675lt... It's 28k.

Had to buy an instrument cluster for a 570s... Took forever cost 8k and still didn't fix the problem... Due to it being an electrical party... The dealer did not take it on return (the car was at the dealer and had to pay for a fix that didn't fix the car)

I'm out on McLarens.


Are all McLarens bad? No. Of course not n

But it's the last car id put 10k miles a year on.