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  1. JDT

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    They will show the car at Capital Market Days in October, however it most likely won't officially launch until sometime in 2026.
     
  2. MDEL

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    This week has been fruitful in realism and terms of intentions for change in Europe. Last Monday, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced she will propose a more relaxed three-year timeframe for the automotive industry to comply with the bloc's CO2 standards, instead of annual targets. She also said "We will prepare to accelerate work on the 2035 review, with full technological neutrality as a fundamental principle,"

    If the launch of a 100% electric Ferrari already seemed completely incomprehensible before these foreseeable changes, now is an absolute non-sense.
     
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  3. JTSE30

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    You do realize the Hydrogen is a complete fail, will never occur on any basis outside of niche applications.

    List of closed H stations (list is from a year ago, March 2024)

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    more:

    https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/global-hydrogen-car-market-to-decline-34-1-year-on-year-in-the-first-half-of-2024

    interest is steeply declining:

    https://climate.ec.europa.eu/news-your-voice/news/european-hydrogen-bank-pilot-auction-132-bids-received-17-european-countries-2024-02-19_en
    Feb 19 2024:
    European Hydrogen Bank pilot auction: 132 bids received from 17 European countries

    https://climate.ec.europa.eu/news-your-voice/news/over-subscribed-european-hydrogen-bank-auction-receives-61-bids-innovation-fund-support-including-8-2025-03-07_en
    Mar 07 2025:
    Over-subscribed European Hydrogen Bank auction receives 61 bids for Innovation Fund support, including 8 maritime projects

    Notice, HALF as many bids as last year...




    https://www.caranddriver.com/honda/cr-v-fuel-cell

    punchline:

    The CR-V Fuel Cell will be available in limited quantities and Honda has said it will build only 300 units per year

    https://carboncredits.com/toyotas-hydrogen-fuel-cell-vehicle-sales-saw-166-increase/

    From 2023:
    The largest carmaker by sales has long placed a huge bet on FCEV as an alternative to fossil fuels. But the company’s sales of hydrogen vehicles weren’t that significant. It has only sold fewer than 22,000 hydrogen fuel cell Mirai since 2014.

    The average annual number of FCEV sold was so insignificant compared to Toyota’s total vehicle sales. Expensive cost of the fuel and lack of hydrogen fueling stations are the two largest bottlenecks hindering sales growth.


    World total, somewhere close to 0:

    https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/global-hydrogen-car-market-to-decline-34-1-year-on-year-in-the-first-half-of-2024

    (when you consider that USA+EU combined have about 560MILLION light-vehicles in-use...)


    And, if you get one of these Hydrogen cars, exactly where can you use it in USA...pretty much nowhere:

    https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/hydrogen-locations#/find/nearest?fuel=HY

    A little better in Europe, but not by much, especially when you consider the daily refill capacity (good for a few cars per day):

    https://h2.live/en/
     
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  4. JTSE30

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    It's already being used to make other cars, it is not an EV only building, never was, it is to help increase overall production capacity... so, no 'waste' if they simply stop the EV project, I have already called it several times that they would 'reveal' and it would be 2-3 years before first customer delivery...and to now read Marcel indicating slippage to 2026, maybe that's how Ferrari will "play it", just keep slipping it into the future until it is just forgotten...
     
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  5. JDT

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    If it's being show at a Capital Markets Day, it won't be forgotten. Every analyst will be there, and they will follow that car with immense intrigue both for success and/or to be the first to scream about a failure. If Ferrari come out and mention it will be incredibly limited that may be different on being able to push it out, but at this point, they keep speaking about how special it will be, so they're somewhat stuck.
     
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  6. JTSE30

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    Showing it and putting in production are very different, car companies reveal prototypes all the time and nothing comes of it...here's hoping :)
     
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  8. Puro

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    Or Passione, reportedly the car’s name.
     
  10. Puro

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    You don’t know that.
     
  11. Puro

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    But they’re selling extremely well in Asia.
     
  12. Puro

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    Or by 2035 they will have reverted back to to petrol.

    And….the EVTOL revolution is coming.
     
  13. peterp

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    It's a 12V rather than a V12 -- not so different really :)
     
  14. Puro

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    But it was still a car, not an SUV/Sedan. I think most are assuming the electric will be the latter due to the mule’s crossover shape.
     
  15. Puro

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    e12
     
  16. peterp

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    I didn't want to buy the vowel :)
     
  17. Puro

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    People complaining about F80s powertrain, just call it an e12, not a V6.
     
  18. Forza Scuderia

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    That’s my understanding based on a triangulation of multiple information sources.
     
  19. Puro

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    Now that I look at the Lanza,
    You may be right. It has to be something unorthodox if they brought in outside designers; which, itself, is quite unorthodox. Personally I’d like to see Ferrari’s first sedan over another UV, but we’ll see what happens this fall.
     
  20. TheMayor

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    Have you seen this Lotus electric hypercar? OMG the sound it makes would drive me crazy. Its like fingernails on a chalkboard. Ferrari would have to do something about this.

     
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    Don't fret Bob! For Ferrari this would be an easy fix:

     
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    Who will like to sit one hour at the "refueling station" with a 2 M+ electric hypercar, maybe even at night?

    I don't know anyone

    Ciao
     
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  24. day355

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    I will be in favor of closing this section, to exclude this "thing" from the Ferrari family !
     
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