When it launched, the SF90 was set above La Ferrari performance at a fraction of the price. Nothing else compared at that price point. So, I don't agree that the price should've been lower. As for the 296, I wasn't required to buy a Roma or GTB before ordering a GTS...although, as a collector I've certainly purchased enough with my dealer to warrant access to the cars I want. The pricing for my 296 at $525K was a fair leap from what I paid for my F8, so I don't disagree it was set a bit high. Yet, it was still more than $250K cheaper than my SF90 AF spider. So, perhaps there's justification there. When looking at Revuelto and Temerario prices, I don't think Ferrari is too far off though. I agree with you wholeheartedly that Ferrari is simply making too many cars. I love it from a shareholder perspective, as the stock is up over 600% from when I originally bought in. However, as an owner and collector, I worry like many others do that they risk becoming the next McLaren if they continue to launch new competing models in close succession. Moreover, the increased prices also contribute to the profound challenges faced with unloading recent models (especially the SF90 and 296). With an SF90 XX soon to arrive and an allocation for a 296VS spider, I'm concerned about the value proposition of these cars, both short and long term. If they do well, I'll continue writing checks for the latest hybrid things from Maranello. If they're as poorly received in the secondary market as their regular version siblings, then I suspect that there are a lot of us who will think hard about the car buying decisions ahead.
I dunno my friend. Personally, I am in the camp of "buy the stock, drive the product" That's a win-win in my book.
As I keep searching through SF90 specs, I am surprised how many people spend so much money on carbon fiber bits and other little design stuff, but don't spec a single ADAS option. I get these cars don't get driven much, but I feel something like blind spot sensor is a no brainer.
Not everyone loves all the electronic nannies I found when I was searching for my car. I love a front camera but a lot of cars are missing them. I guess it's just the aesthetic change that comes with some of the items.
Any issues with seeing your blind spots? Maybe I am overthinking this. I guess I have gotten lazy over the years.
I would say this car has better visibility than most supercars. It blows away any Huracan variant, better than 296 and F8. Not quite as good as a 992 911 variant. I have zero issues with blind spots.
Thanks, good to hear it's better than f8, not that the F8 is horrible either. It isn't going to kill a deal for me, but it does seem odd to not click the box on a $2k back radar when you are already over $700k MSRP. Don't believe there is any design affect with back radar, unless I am missing something. Filtering it on Ferrari's pre-owned site, it seems like about 10% of listed sf90s have it.
As someone relatively new to the supercar world, I’ve really appreciated how Lamborghini handled the Huracán over its production run. It offered a reliable V10 supercar for $200K–$250K (though prices gradually rose, they mostly stayed within that range) without the dealer games Ferrari is known for. A decade ago, when I inquired about getting a 458, a dealer told me I’d first have to buy a California—arguably one of Ferrari’s worst models. Fast forward to 2022, when I was shopping for my first new supercar, I called a few Lamborghini dealerships and was easily offered a Huracán Evo allocation. I also considered the Ferrari F8, a stunning car, but when I contacted Ferrari dealers, I got the same runaround: I’d need to buy a Roma first, and even then, the F8 was nearing discontinuation. (Ironically, SF90s were selling for hundreds of thousands over MSRP.) Ferrari soon replaced the F8 with the 296, which by all accounts is an excellent car, but at a $340K starting price, choosing the Huracán was a no-brainer. Ironically, the same Ferrari dealers who once turned me away were calling a few years later, offering me a 296—which I declined. My impression (and correct me if I’m wrong) is that the 296 has been relatively easy to acquire, whereas the Huracán sold out before production ended. Now, Lamborghini is launching the Temerario, which starts at around $360K—a nearly $100K jump for more power I’ll never fully use and an engine that sounds worse. All of this to say: the Huracán was perfectly priced as a true “entry-level” supercar, which is why it sold so well. As for the 296 and Temerario, I doubt they’ll see the same demand as their predecessors—but Ferrari and Lamborghini are successful for a reason, and I’m just a guy on the forums. Regarding the SF90, I think it’s a good deal for the power, but prices still have room to fall, as both new and used models are sitting at dealerships. I’m hoping to land one by summer, ideally in the mid to high $300s. Now it’s just a matter of finding the right color and specs and a dealer willing to play ball.
Keep in mind there was a time when you had to pay a markup of $40k over MSRP to get a Huracan. When production caught up with demand they took that away but for a while you had to pay over sticker. I waited over 16 months to get my Evo allocation and I was one of the last ones on the list. They took care of the big fish first. I generally agree Ferrari is not as great to work with as Lambo but keep in mind Huracan was massed produced on a much larger scale than 458 and F8. The 296 market was tight for awhile but has recently opened up as interest cooled a bit. So not all Ferrari's fault.
If you do pick up an SF90, you’ll likely agree that for all the criticism from keyboard jockey’s who could never afford them, the car really is fantastic. I’ve never been a big Lamborghini fan, though I do own a ‘24 Urus that my wife absolutely loves. Given I’ve never owned a Huracan, you’d be in a better position to review the two after obtaining an SF90. FWIW, the 296 is also a fantastic car. As for any hybrid supercar, it’s unclear if they’ll ever receive the love of their ICE predecessors.
What do you guys think of the revuelto? I was looking at an sf90 at a Lamborghini dealership and they are pushing me on to a high optioned revuelto. I feel like it would drag too much attention for me, but also seems like it will depreciate heavily as well.
From everything I know the beta buyers were having nothing but electrical gremlins and troubles with UX, and many were quietly bought back by Lambo. Car drives great. The tech? Not so much. Good luck.
Not in my experience with my Revuelto, tech is on point works as flawlessly and seamlessly as the tech in the SF90, I would say a tad more intuitive and easy interface to use, similar opinion in my experience with the hybrid integration etc, the R is a fantastic car with a completely different personality of the SF90, you really can not go wrong with either. I have a strange feeling, after owning quite a few of these cars at the same time, that most early “reviews’ you get from people who have no or very little experience with them but they want to be first to talk about them and love to be controversial, the dealer lets them take one around the block for few minutes and they are ready to tell everyone online everything about it, I have no issues with anyone doing that but without proper seat time in correct environments and living with the car you are not really in the position to paint an accurate picture and most of your opinion is misleading misinformation, this is the biggest issues with today instant access to information sifting through BS is a full time job.
Good observation. I never paid over msrp for any of my Lambos. Brilliant cars for the price. Tech worked very well and not a fear of being stranded which is opposite of my F experiences. The huracan replacement is too expensive, looks bland, and does not sound epic. Passed on my allocations.
I was comparing the below revuelto to the below SF90, both about the same original MSRP, both about the same mileage. I am about to move forward with the SF90. The price difference was too big to justify. https://www.lamborghinigreenwich.com/used/Lamborghini/2024-Lamborghini-Revuelto-fb64e77eac181970b80b8a1e00f081c1.htm https://www.ferrarisouthbay.com/pre-owned/ZFF95NLA4P0292807
I wonder how Ferrari will respond to the 25% tariff Trump announced today. Will they absorb some of that cost? Regardless, it stands to reason the secondary market will benefit the sellers.
You guys will be fine, you will pay nearly as much we have been paying in Asia for these cars still cheaper in the States, that will sort the boys from the men pretty quickly.
