I guess it depends what you meant by overkill. If you are wondering if it's worth the extra cost, it's probably not. But if you are worried it's going to be too loud, it won't be, especially since you will have the valve controller.
well it’s too late now. Everything’s already been shipped and paid for. I’m sure it will sound great either way. The cats on my 812 GTS were the game changer. Exhaust didn’t do much but that car needed volume desperately and the cats provided that big time. Let’s see here…
A YouTuber/carspotter caught me driving through the city today. This is the Novitec valveless exhaust with factory cats. Obviously, I’m not really on the throttle (until the end, anyway). Nice high pitch but not too obnoxious for city driving (IMO). https://youtube.com/shorts/-X-vCwT8Y8w Also found this one from a few years ago, the day I picked up the car, brand new (same exhaust setup): https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PV2RoibNuqM
These additional two new videos are super helpful. Thank you for posting! I found a really clean low mile Novitec full system with catless downpipes, valved rear section x-pipe, Techtrinic, Switchtronic, key fob etc. Now I am so torn on whether to buy that or just fo thr same setup (leave cats and just the rear valveless x-pipe) as you Hunter911 as your car has the exact sound I want. Just wondering if I might even benefit from having the valves?? Also, can someone please confirm for me - are the GPFs in the downpipes attached to the cats OR are they part of the rear section? I have had two people who are highly knowledgeable installers tell me contradictory things on this point. Ideally I would keep OEM cats but remove GPF.
The GPF is after the cats and part of the valves. Cats/downpipes are separate as is the muffler. Personally I'd do 250 cell cats no GPF and no muffler. I probably would not do valves but they could come in handy depends on your personal tastes and how you use the car. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Personally I don't think valves are necessary since the exhaust isn't crazy-loud, you can just keep the revs low if you want to be quiet. Maybe with the catless downpipes this is different though. I think with the switchtronic you can keep them open all the time if you want so that is the best of both worlds and if you can get a deal on a used system that is a good option. The GPF's are in the rear/muffler section so those get removed with even just the basic Novitec systems. My Novitec system removes the valves, GPF's and rear muffler.
Here is another photo I got from Fabspeeds website....https://www.fabspeed.com/ferrari-f8-tributo-valvetronic-x-pipe-exhaust-system-2020/. They make excellent exhaust too. This shows the exhaust put together except for the OEM cats which are before the GPF-Valves-muffler. Image Unavailable, Please Login
It's really amazing how well the F8 runs with this clogged up exhaust system. Cars response and speed is amazing. Ferrari tuned the F8 perfectly to run in al weather temps, all types of gasoline and run very reliable. I wish Ferrari in Italy would partner with either Tubi or Capristo who they've worked with in the past and still do with Tubi for Challenge car exhausts would come out with a more "free flowing" exhaust and ECU tune to keep the air/fuel mix proper and reliability in check for North America or anywhere else in the world that does not require GPF's. Sell this complete factory system and include a 1 or 2yr warranty so buyers feel good and make even more profit. I know through Ferrari dealers there would be a lot of F8 owners that would go for this.
All of that metal removed and replaced by a lightweight x-pipe, saves a lot of weight. This is the Novitec Race Exhaust: Image Unavailable, Please Login
Mdrums and Hunter - Thank you guys so much for the quick informative response and the photos. 100% clear now and I am going with the same setup as Hunter. Really appreciate it gents.
warranty issues aside, you do understand that this modification violates federal law and renders your car illegal for street use in all 50 states? go for it
People really do not care about the law. Look at all the aftermarket car tunes and exhaust for cars and trucks and lowering parts for cars and jacked up lifts for trucks and jeeps that go way outside the law. No one does anything about it from the law enforcement side and consumers do not care or even think about any EPA CARB laws. As far as warranty... people do not care 1 bit that do these mod's. They either pay if a warranty issue happens and the mod is or could be the cause or they revert back to stock and pull the wool over the Ferrari dealers eyes ( or the Ferrari dealers revert the car back to stock and fool Ferrari the manufacture...you know it happens).
So is driving 100 mph and not observing the speed limit. You drive your Ferrari at 65 and under at all times?
Just traded mine in with novitec exhaust on it, I told them I could put original back on, but they thought it would be a perk for next buyer.
Is there an official stance on aftermarket exhausts from Ferrari as far as the warranty is concerned? I am thinking of upgrading to Novitec with cats on a 22 f8 spider. Car is under warranty for another 2.5 years.
Some dealers say they are fine with it as long as you make car original again when warranty work is needed, some dealers say absolutely not. Not sure if anyone has had the opportunity to test the dealers that are supposedly fine with it.
From Ferrari the manufacture NOT the dealer....I called Ferrari North America who put me in touch with Italy and I asked about warranty back in 2021 when I did Novitec springs on my 488. Ferrari the manufacture will void warranty based off of mods you've done to the car and they affect the part that broke. If you blow a stock turbo, transmission, axles, anything the ECU controls which is the entire cars engine, transmission, anything electrical basically that runs the car and you've modded the car with a ecu tune and exhaust, when you take it to the dealer ( Ferrari dealers are independently owned and not owned by Ferrari the manufacture) they will require a ECU read out and photos of the car. Ferrari the manufacture will not cover the warranty because the car is operating outside what the manufacture intended. Another scenario is if you've modded the ECU so you can run aftermarket exhaust and you have an interior issue like your seat broke or a rattle... then the car will be covered under warranty. Also say you've lowered the car on Novitec springs and put on thin sidewall tires like 21/22 combo and you hit a bad bump and trigger your door air bag. Ferrari will claim the overly harsh suspension and tires are outside of spec caused this. This has happened. You have to understand that the cars warranty is with the manufacture NOT the dealer. Ferrari the manufacture warranties the car to operate as is was designed in various weather, road, climate and fuel situations. They are NOT responsible for warranty on a car that has aftermarket parts that Ferrari is not responsible for since the car is now operating outside as it was designed. These warranty questions seem to come up every week. There are pages of threads, posts on this subject. If you do not believe me I suggest you CALL Ferrari the manufacture and ask them. The Ferrari dealership can give you ok advise but some are trying to sell you mod;s and labor still and some Ferrari dealers have just stopped dealing with this and tell you the truth about warranty.
