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Delta Airlines jet crash lands/flips upside down in Toronto

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  1. donv

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    I'll defer to your airline flying experience.

    I disagree based on what I have seen, but perhaps you have had other experiences.

    I would agree that often that is the case at a major airline, but at the regionals the FOs are typically getting their first large aircraft experience. There is a pretty big gap between a new FO on their first large (or jet) aircraft, and the Captain. Although apparently not in this case.

     
  2. Bob Parks

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    I think that we should recognize that the pilot at the controls of an airplane at this level knows what the situation is and attempts address it as he or she was trained to do. If they have passed crosswind check flights there is no way that the check flight will match anything that the weather can throw at you in the future. From what I can determine, this pilot did everything that should be done , it didn't quite make it. Iv'e been there, maybe some of you have, also. Pilots are not perfect even if they think they are.
     
  3. Whisky

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    I agree.

    There was a YT video done by a pilot, he showed the video and described every second of what was going on,
    how you dip the wing with the crosswind - said they did everything by the book and perfectly.
     
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    You guys are ignoring the elephant in the room, I already pointed out. Regionals with jet aircraft hire only pilots with 1500 hours or more time. Experience does count. The government requires this, with some exceptions:mad:
     
  5. donv

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    Yes, but occasionally the 2500 hour gusty crosswind meets the 1500 hour pilot... and this is the result.

    Again, the Captain is supposed to be there to make a judgement about the conditions and the relative skills of the pilots, and go with the safest choice. Maybe he did, in this case, which is a greater scandal.

     
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    Usually not a good idea to carry the wing low crosswind technique all the way to the runway.
     
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  7. donv

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    Especially in a low wing airplane, and especially, especially, in a swept wing jet.

     
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    What is the recording rate on the FDR? Would it catch a sharp increase in descent rate in the last 2-3 sec?
     
  9. F1tommy

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    Looks like no flare, and most of the high time airline pilots I talk to say the same thing. She just drove in into the ground. Does not look like a textbook landing.
     

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