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One Piece Water Pump Seal?

Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by Schumi, Mar 30, 2025.

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  1. Schumi

    Schumi Formula Junior
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    Jun 5, 2002
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    Daren
    Has anyone heard of or tried to install a one-piece water pump seal in place of the two-piece ceramic units as originally fitted?
    If so, what did you find? How did it work? Did it last as long as the original?
     
  2. SouthJersey400i

    SouthJersey400i Formula 3

    Mar 14, 2007
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    Ken Battle
    You are asking if something lasted more than the original that lasted 30++ years!
     
  3. Schumi

    Schumi Formula Junior
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    I don't know how long the one I am replacing has lasted. I am just trying to find out if anyone else has heard or/ or tried this single piece on their 400i.
     
  4. raemin

    raemin Formula 3

    Jan 16, 2007
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    What are the benefits of the one-piece design? I doubt it will last longer than the original part, but it might be easier to source and less labour intensive? There are not many reason to replace a design that works: supply / ease / cost...
     
  5. Schumi

    Schumi Formula Junior
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    Hopefully to keep the dang thing from leaking. The mechanic has tried three new seals without any luck, and this is after a full engine-out, full water pump rebuild from the inside out. For some reason the two-piece ceramic seals aren't sealing. I'd entertain any and all suggestions at this point - and thank you in advance.
     
  6. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
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    Dec 26, 2001
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    How bad is the leak? On the two piece seals I take the two parts and lap them together quickly then look at the black ring closely and I find areas that the white portion has not touched. I keep lapping them until full contact is obvious. The seal can also be leaking past the rubber seal portions.
     
  7. Schumi

    Schumi Formula Junior
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    @Newman Thank you so much for giving some advice. I don't know if he has done this step or not. I have forwarded your suggestions to him to ask. My guess is he has, and sought another solution after that failed, but it never hurts to ask.

    On the last seal (OEM one), it was dripping about a drip per 3 seconds - so a lot.
     

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