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Help needed 599: Immobilizer Malfunction Issue

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  1. Ducati348

    Ducati348 Karting

    May 15, 2009
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    Hi all,

    I just finished putting my 2011 599 HGTE back together after pulling the dashboard and having it recovered as well as having all of the sticky parts fixed. This entire process took about two months. During this time, the battery cutoff was engaged (not on charger but in car). I now have the interior back together and everything functions correctly EXECPT I now get an immobilizer malfunction error on the TFT and the light on the dash with a little lock symbol stays illuminated. The car will turn over but not start. I followed the procedure in the OM regarding reconnection of the battery but the fault remains. Has anyone experienced this issue? Any suggestions? Unfortunately, I only have a single key. The car was running perfectly prior to the two month interior refurbishment.
     
  2. brogenville

    brogenville Formula 3
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    Any chance you disturbed the immobiliser antennae on the steering column? If this isn’t picking up the RFID chip in the key, you’ll get the immobiliser fault.

    Be worth scanning to see if any faults are listed on the body or instrument cluster ecu’s.

    Not an ideal option, but as a backup, Trev360 on here developed an immobiliser delete ecu flash for another 612 owner which I tested working on my car. 599 should be a similar deal to issue.

    If the car has somehow lost the pairing to this key (and in truth I can’t see how), you could go on through the process to re-pair them. You would need to go to someone with an SD3/Leonardo level tool to do this.


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  3. Ducati348

    Ducati348 Karting

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    Thanks for the quick response. The antennae seems like a possibility. I’ll go pull the column apart to check. Do you know what the antennae looks like and where it’s located?
     
  4. Ducati348

    Ducati348 Karting

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    The problem has been fixed. The wire to the immobilized antennae was disconnected. Thanks for the advice!!
     
  5. afwrench

    afwrench Formula Junior

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    Can you show or describe the wire in question? mike
     
  6. Ducati348

    Ducati348 Karting

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    The immobilizer antenna resides around the ignition module. At about the 9:00 position there is a connector that plugs into the antenna. The wire is a two position connector that plugs into the antenna. See attached picture. The blue circle shows the location of the connector in question and the red circle shows the location of the immobilizer antenna.

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  7. afwrench

    afwrench Formula Junior

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    Thanks Alex, very helpful for future reference. Mike
     
  8. virtual_law

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    Hi, excuse me reviving this but I found a wire dangling under the steering on my 599. Is this the same immobilizer antenna connector by any chance?

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  9. Ducati348

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    No. That is a non functional connector that comes from the factory without a mating connector. I found that same one when I pulled the dash apart.
     
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  10. 599ing

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    Sep 7, 2010
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    I'm having the same immobilizer malfunction error message.

    I changed my battery and now the engine won't start. I can hear the cranking but not started.

    A technician used Autel Diagnostic scanner to reset the fault and it won't go.

    He mentioned he has to take off the immobilizer ecu and ship it aboard and they'd reset it for over $1500

    Makes no sense I only changed the battery

    Help please
     
  11. Ducati348

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    Did you try using the other key? Could be a communication issue between the key and the immobilizer receiver.
     
  12. 599ing

    599ing Rookie

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    Yes I used both keys same issue
     
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  14. brogenville

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    If the error codes are on the engine ecu’s, to me this is because the immo code in the body ecu doesn’t match the engine ecu’s. The bcm reads the code on the key chip and compares it with what’s in its memory, and also the code on the engine master ecu. Virginising the engine ecu’s is pretty easy for anyone that can reflash these ecu’s. Any of the guys doing manual swaps these days will be doing this for example. If they still doesn’t work, and the key isn’t registered with the body ecu, I think that a full dealer level sd3 should be capable of adding it back on.
     
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  15. 599ing

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    Thanks. Any idea if a Leonardo Diagnostic tool would be able to reset the immobilizer if I have the Code Card?

    Do the immobilizer ecus on these cars actually go bad?

    I saw this emergency starting procedure on the manual (attached) will try it out. Surprised I haven't found this online anywhere



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  16. brogenville

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    I think there is a good chance a Leonardo can authorise new immobiliser chips with the code card. If not, then you may well need a dealer level SD3 or SDX.
     
  17. 599ing

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    Sep 7, 2010
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    Leonardo allowed access all the way to entering the code card. Programmed remotes and everything. But then there was an issue with the BCM chip. Technician swapped with a BCM from a ferrari FF (that he had as a spare) and reprogrammed it and the engine started. So BCM is the faulty part.

    ... But some functionalities were lost like the turn signals would not work as the FF and 599 BCM are not identical.

    Attached is a pic of the 599 BCM. Is it possible to source it somewhere? He mentioned locally this part falls under 'restricted parts category' that only the dealer could order as they relate to security or something in that nature.

    Help please
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  18. tazandjan

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  19. DouglasNg

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    These are controlled items and can only be ordered thru dealer
     
  20. 599ing

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    Yes. Unfair to 599 owner should dealer exploit this to charge tens of thousands for a $1200 part.

    "You see... the factory needs to verify that the car is not stolen and only the dealer can provide that verification"

    Makes zero sense:
    1. The owner has the title and all the proof of ownership - not the dealer.
    2. The owner could request additional official documentation from the local authorities to prove ownership as of date of part request - the dealer would be denied that request (dealer is not the owner).
    3. Should Ferrari remain to say, "well how do we know it wasn't all photoshopped?", the owner could even request the local authorities to collaborate with Ferrari to relay that information - the dealer would be denied that request too (again dealer is not the owner).
    Wish Ferrari would improve this. Unnecessary headache and trauma. Can happen again too.
    The opposite of what every Ferrari owner should experience.

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  21. DouglasNg

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    Yes I had this problem as well on my 612 and 458.

    Had to dismantle the BCM to get the chips repaired locally. This was the only solution here!!

    The issues start to be intermittent and you have to get it sorted if not you will get stranded
     

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