458 Are all the 458's falling apart?

2015 Spider. 11,200 miles. Pure, trouble free motoring except the sticky buttons. Had those done by dealer. Otherwise, no issues.


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I could browse through just about any car forum and draw the same conclusions as the OP about whichever car forum I'm browsing. The reason is that people typically post in these kinds of forums when they have a problem... There are thousands and thousands of these cars being driven on a daily basis, without any issues, but you're not going to see owners make a post every time they have a problem free driving experience. So, when you see post after post after post listing various problems, it makes you start to believe that EVERYONE is having problems with these cars, which isn't the actual case.

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I have a car that is MY13 and has 16k miles (25.xxx km) on it. Apart from periodic maintenance, I only had the rear diffuser crack repaired. There are also sticky button problems that have not been touched until now and have started to show up little by little, but since they are not very disturbing right now, it seems like I will wait a while longer to fix them. In general, the 458 feels like a solid and reliable car to me and I use it happily and comfortably. Of course, after all, it is a 10+ year old car, no one can say that nothing will happen. Also, I have no need to use it anymore, but there is an extended warranty (just in case). In other comments, car owners have mentioned the problems they have experienced, I think this is partly related to the maintenance history and how it is used, and of course a little luck . I used the 488 and I definitely agree that it is a better car, but is it more beautiful? I think not. Moreover, the technological difference and surprise that occurred when you got on the 458 after the 430 did not occur to me when you got on the 58 and 88, it had a similar design and interior. Would I sell my car for a 488? Absolutely not. Maybe for an f8 but not right now.

 

Holy thread revival.

 

Be prepared for your shocks to start leaking and needing replaced or rebuilt. New OEM shocks from Ferrari installed for all four shocks will run you 20,000. Rebuilt which are supposedly better than the OEM's will run 10,000 with labor. This repair will become necessary based not on mileage but with age. This is why you always want to get a PPI before buying even if from a dealer with their supposed 101 point inspection

 

You may be right when you say that, I have heard of the leaking shock absorber problem but I am not sure if this problem is related to km or year. Even if they leak, I do not think that all 4 of them will leak at the same time, maybe one of them will break and need to be replaced as a pair, but I do not want my driving pleasure to be spoiled by the feeling that something could happen at any moment. As I said, these things depend partly on usage and partly on luck.

 

The title of this thread is stupid.

Four of my 458's I've had 10 years now. So far, over 10 yr period, one leaking shock, two with semi-sticky buttons, and one EPB failure. All else rock solid reliable.

 

Purchased mine summer of 2024. Amazing car, no issues (knock on wood) except for one particular button is sticky and looking ugly. Its called polymer reversion/rubber reversion and is apparent in many cars as the rubber chemically breaks down. There are fixes for that so not a reason to otherwise miss out on such a superior vehicle. Also, its values remain high due to its high desirability which helps offset some of the issues. Electrical issues? Consensus is just get an anti-gravity battery. The car is gorgeous, has a strong pedigree in terms of racing heritage being a Ferrari of course but also in terms of design being Pininfarina. It has its pros over 911 GT3 cars in terms of them all looking essentially the same the 458 stands out. Better than 488s as well in terms of values and for the many that prefer naturally aspirated engines.

Simply put, the 458 checks more boxes than most/any supercar in its league, and I think its market values reflect this. If not this, I might go to a V12 one day, while keeping the 458 and possibly go into the hypercar territory, if I can make some money on it.

 

This thread is pretty depressing. I have 20,000 miles in a GT3RS, this car has seen the dealer 1 time in 6.5 years for a fogged tail light (and that was actually my mistake). I do every maintenance item myself but in terms something going bad, just 1 thing which was owner error.

60,000 miles on a cayenne that has seen dealer twice, once for a rattle in a door and another was for broken seat belt sensor (my fault again as I spilled coffee in it).

I have 10,000 miles on a turbo s that has had 0 dealer visits.

Your headaches with your italian mistress is very expensive and crazy. Sorry guys and 458 is not a “high sprung race car”. I dont see them in Nurburgring much but I do see dozens of GT3RSs in a single lap.

 

Falling apart?

Compared to WHAT?

 

ALL true but Porsches will bore you to sleep.

 

Four!!!
Well done.
I had a good LoL at thread title also. As you know, I sold my gt3 RS and gt3 and Spyder RS last year and just got another 458. No comparison. (Although the Spyder RS is pretty good)

 

I kept one of my GT3's but find that I don't drive it often, as the ride is so punishing. The sound however is fantastic with Sharkwerks exhaust...

 

Listen, do I feel like I can abuse my 458 like I could with my Porsches? No.

BUT the sense of occasion behind the wheel when I am not at the limit is much more satisfying in the 458 when compared to my Porsches.

 

No headache with my Italian cars. I have replaced the entire gear box in my 911s and the clutch twice. 458 is very high strung if you ever driven one. Not sure its a race car but it is high strung. Also, considering changing your name to StuggartAllTheWay.

 

I am quite tempted with Spyder RS... What do you think? Worth a try?

 

I also put in 15k miles over 6 years of ownership in my 2015 458. No problems at all!

 

Why is that?

 

Mostly due to the relationship I have built by having Porsches for a decade, and having a Ferrari for less than a year. My feeling may change over time spent behind the wheel of my 458.

I build trust and connection with my cars from seat time. I know what the Porsche can do, and what it can take. Which is almost anything you throw at it.

Pcars are over engineered. I simply find, so far, my 458 to be more delicate, not as direct; and not as solid. This is my subjective opinion, not objective fact.

That being said, there is a reason that Stuttgart made cars are used so often at the track and F-Cars (outside challenge cars) are not seen as much. Running costs are just higher.

If I’m wrong, and you thrash and push the F cars just as hard as a Pcar, would love to hear more!

 

Not sure in what way the 458 is delicate. Could be in your head frankly. I've tracked my 458 several times a seasons for 8 years and its fine. I haven't done anything special. CCBs are still within certified range. Is it set up for the track like a gt3? No. Is it as sturdy as a porchse? Probably not. But I would not say delicate by any strech.

 

I completely agree with you and I've had the opposite experience as you....What you said is factual. I've had Ferraris (6) over the past 20+ years and only one Porsche.... The Ferraris are MUCH MUCH MUCH more fragile and delicate than the Porsche. More than any other car actually. I've babied all my Ferraris (355,430,458, 488 and F8(2)) I put the pedal to the actual floor on my Porsche without hesitation or worry and i would never think of doing that to any of the Ferraris. I love Ferrari more than any other car. It's not even close but they cant handle hard driving, full throttle, extreme braking or high G cornering without messing something up. I've never even considered pushing them hard mostly because there is no need. A nice gradual push on the pedal and they go VERY nicely.

 

How many miles have you put on those four 458s the past 10 years? Just wondering.

 

It’s good to hear your experience and that it lines up to how I feel so far.

One example for others in the chat- try launching a Porsche 100x in a row. It won’t skip a beat. I don’t even feel comfortable doing one launch in my 458. Is this a problem for me? Not at all, because launch control is mostly a cheap thrill, and I don’t have any desire to use it.

With Porsche, you can run the cars for thousands of track miles with only changing fluids and consumables. Certain gens had their flaws (991.1GT3) but even then Porsche extended the motor warranty to 10 years and offered an updated revised G6 motor to remedy that.

Also- with Ferrari, it’s definitely more finicky. You don’t need to leave a Porsche on a tender. There aren’t really parasitic drains. They are just cars. With VERY high limits.

At the end of the day, I simply don’t have enough seat time behind my Ferrari to confirm my suspicions, yet.

 

You need to get that out of your head, 458 definitely not "delicate!" I've pushed them 130+ mph for hours at a time on autobahn with zero issues whatsoever!

But yes Teutonic German will in most instances end up being less glitchy overall than Italian exotic, that's just the way it is.

Remember, Porsche is the wife, Ferrari is the mistress.

 

Your "problem" that you've created mentally is very easy to "solve." Go drive the snot out of your 458 and report back. What are you afraid of?