Which tyres would you recommend for an F12 TDF?

Michelin 4s

 

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Avoid Pirellis like the plague

 

I would recommend the Pilot Sport 4S.

The OEM Pirelli Corsa are not bad tires but I think the Michelin are a better choice for street driving- as long as you won't be driving in snow.

 

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Cup2’s more challenging to get up to temp


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I need to change mine to 4S
Seems on the Corsas, they spin a lot in low gear, though could be the enormous power.


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4s is ready to go pretty much at all time, and much better in wet condition. But I gotta say cup 2 still better than trofeo R in terms of get up to the temp.[emoji1787]

 

Agree, once warm, Cup2’s have much better grip. But takes more time to heat them up.


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A lot of people say this. I put brand new Pirelli P Zero Corsa (OEM spec) on my TDF last summer - this is just before the 4S was available. So far my car has excellent grip. My understanding is all tires have only so many heat cycles in them, but the Corsa, being so track focused, they have less heat cycles until they begin falling off in terms of grip.


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Just put a set of 4Ss on last week.
A nice change over the Pirellis.

 

Hi just mounted PS4S on the TDF May I ask you what pressure do you recommend?
I found nothing on the net

thanks Tamás

 

32PSI (cold) will serve you well, if driving in a lot of rain I would go with 35PSI since the tires will not build much heat; definitely avoid freezing weather, always store at 40F (5C) or warmer

 

The replacement MPS S5 is a better tire but years later still hasn't been offered in enough sizes.

 

In regards to rain, if driving and it is raining most of the time, higher pressure, I am not sure what 'standing water' would mean? Tire pressure while parked (such as a wet parking lot) is not the concern, just while driving. If driving in continuous wet conditions I would increase the tire pressure and then reduce when driving in dry conditions. When driving in dry conditions the air in the tire will heat up and expand causing the tire pressure to increase, that is what does not occur was efficiently when driving in wet conditions and thus compensating by increasing the tire pressure. This is to improve tire handling at higher speeds (> 120km/h), if only driving with slower speeds just leave the tires at 32PSI

 

@Jtse , standing water , water on a flat surface , road, ,,,,danger of aqua planing ,,,perso for me that is one of the reason why I do not like CUP s for everyday driving

Rgds
Tam

 

Oh, if the road does not have a crown or otherwise allow for proper drainage, TDF driving should be avoided, I know about aqua planing all too well