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A new ICONA SP4 is coming: Rumors and Speculation

Discussion in 'Icona Series (SP1, SP2, & SP3)' started by ohno, May 8, 2023.

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  1. Caeruleus11

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    Excellent points.

    I would just add, when you think about the relative merits of a stick shift, whether its an electronic simulation- they could simulate the clutch also- or the real thing- the target market is the wealthy enthusiast market. That is usually who comes in to buy pre-owned Ferraris. But it’s not who typically buys new Ferraris. However, the Ferrari market has really grown.

    While I think they could easily make it work for an Icona model, which would be great, I think if Ferrari wanted to do a stick shift in a series car, it should be optional in the 296 model. The 296 is supposed to be about fun and engagement- and that’s what the stick shift is all about. They have the SF90 as a performance setter. And they could change the calibration of the engine in such a way as to maybe reduce power in the lower gears to let you rev it out and enjoy the power. JMHO. Hope everyone has a nice week.
     
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  2. 9nb

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    They could make the ultimate entry level car as a manual, 296 no hybrid powertrain and a manual. Simplest/lightest production car they make, cap the production at 1,000-2,000 a year and sell every one of them, sort of a 911T to the Ferrari range. Perhaps even call it a Dino.
     
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  3. Caeruleus11

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    That would be a lot of fun, great idea!
     
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  4. _Alex

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    I feel like a simulated manual would be like a fake watch. Yes it looks the part but we’d all know deep inside it was just a simulation of what we really want.

    A true manual 296 on the other hand? Yes please! Produce that and just take my money already
     
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  5. Caeruleus11

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    I agree with you- thats a good point- I was just thinking out lout with you all.
     
  6. Eilig

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    Are you referring to the Sportomatic? I've driven one a few times and much prefer standard clutch for several reasons.
     
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    This was pretty interesting to hear.
     
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    He is not a facts based speaker. Mostly his own opinions to drive channel viewers. The factory would probably not take him seriously as he has little driver feedback and uses random rumors as truth behind his statements.
     
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    Image Unavailable, Please Login Remember when I posted about this mule in my stories and told you it’s a very special car?!? Well, ladies and gentlemen, this SF90-based mulotipo is fitted with a MANUAL GEARBOX and it seems likely that Ferrari is bringing back the manual transmission due to customers‘ demands - and it will most probably be on the F40-inspired Icona SP4 that is allegedly being developed together with non-other than seven-time F1 World Champion and Scuderia Ferrari-driver Sir Lewis Hamilton.

    This special test mule has black tinted side-windows to hide the gearshift while the steering wheel has no paddleshifts!!! The car had recently been caught being tested on the Fiorano track by Marc Gene and once even Ferrari Design Director Flavio Manzoni was behind the wheel. I’ve been shown a video of this test and you can clearly hear the difference in the clutch!!!

    My guess is that the SP4 will carry a non-hybrid V8-TT as it was the case with the original F40. But don’t expect it to be unveiled this year as many websites already stated… The Daytona SP3 is still in production!

    Guesses for the name of the new Icona? Well, what about Ferrari Hamilton SP4?

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    https://www.instagram.com/iliasabawi/p/DI6r3qpKIDd/
     
  16. 355TDI

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    If this is true they can charge however many millions and won’t make enough of them. They will sell in seconds.
     
  17. Spet00

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    Absolutely. Apologies to future owners who I imagine would prefer them to be as exclusive as possible, but it sounds like a car I wouldn't mind being produced in F80 numbers
     
  18. _Alex

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    I’d bet they’ll be produced in the same numbers as the F80. If they produce less then they’d be implying it’s more special than their new halo car and I can’t see that happening. My guess is 799 SP4s with either a Monza or Daytona being an entry requirement. With 499 Monzas and 599 Daytonas that gives enough with overlap for the owners that held on to both.
     
  19. merstheman

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    I truly truly desperately hope it is not named after Lewis Hamilton. I think it won't, pretty sure it won't, but still, in today's world one can never be sure.
     
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  20. [gTr]

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    My guess is F40 reinterpretation - V8 TT with a manual based on the SF90 platform minus the hybrid, 1311 units, F80 level pricing.
     
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    Better to buy a F40 then… cheaper and original
     
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    Well, as Ferrari has been so successful in Le Mans recently, it could be called Ferrari Le Mans SP4. Or invoke the good old times and name it Ferrari Mille Miglia (or MM) SP4?
     
  23. TheBigEasy

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    There was a lot of F40 reinterpretation in the design of the F80 already.... they should have done that design as the SP4.... and then something more futuristic for the F80.

    And gated manual should have been (at least an option) for all SP models.

    They could also do something that looks like 1962 250 GTO.
     
  24. _Alex

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    That would be amazing but I wonder if they’re saving that for the SP5. If I was head boss in charge of Icona, I wouldn’t do an F40. It seems to me that Icona was about re-creating very special cars that were pretty much impossible to get. For example, the Monza recreated 1950s racers that go for about $20M - $30M (or more). The SP3 was based off the P4 and P5, which is impossible to get. However, it’s not that hard to get an F40 for about $3.5m. A brand new SP4 is going to be pretty close to that. So why create a recreation of a car one could just buy at a similar price anyway? Plus the hyper car line has essentially been repetitive reinterpretations of that kind of car every 10 years. Even the F80 teased the ducts from the F40 when it launched.

    Given all that, I’d prefer a manual 250 GTO or even manual 250 Lusso SWB. Those are getting around $10M each and so a modern interpretation of that kind of makes sense. But a modern, raw, light, manual F40 is…well…an F40.
     
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