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330 GTC market

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  1. JohnnyRay

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    Yet another 330 GTC didn't make reserve - at Worldwide in Auburn yesterday. Bidding started at $300K, worked it's way up to $400K in $20K increments, then stalled. The auctioneer struggled for another $10k with no takers. This car previous sold for $445K at RM Monterey in 2023. SN 10101.My sense was that here were a handful of knowledgeable bidders in the room.

    https://listings.worldwideauctioneers.com/product/1967-ferrari-330-gtc/

    https://rmsothebys.com/auctions/mo23/lots/r0125-1967-ferrari-330-gtc-by-pininfarina/

    It seems that more than a few cars with some potential needs have reached a similar fate over the last year or more. And this is happening whether at auction, on BaT or private offers. Sellers want over $400K for less than perfect cars and buyers are balking at paying that. Are increasing restoration costs hurting these sales perhaps?

    On another note, internet clickbait is going around regarding Tim Allen's 330 GTC being worth $3.4M! Beyond the sensational valuation, one interesting point made is that it is Tim's favorite car in his collection...
     
  2. JohnnyRay

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    Correction - there were a handful of knowledgeable bidders in the room... ;)
     
  3. stevewak

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    I don't think you can look at Worldwide or Mecum figures for an accurate picture of the market for European collectors' cars. Only RM, Broad Arrow or Gooding. At Goodwod the other day, Bonhams sold a LHD, wrong-colour car that had been round the world a few times for £402,500, say $525k on the day. Below £400k to £500k estimate (on net price that was £350k).
     
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    It's ain't 2014, that's for sure.

    Forking over $345K for a disassembled, non running (albeit straight and with not rust) '67 seemed like a good idea back then.
     
  5. redfred84

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    There's a REAL nice one, restored, and cared for by Patrick Otis & Co available at the Otis shop NOW!
     
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    I don't see any links to it on the Ottis website...
     
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    #7 JohnnyRay, May 4, 2025 at 11:29 PM
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    I saw this one sell. As I recall, this was advertised as an Air Conditioned car - which Bonhams later retracted. Other than that, it presented well and many items were (apparently) restored to a high enough level to take some refurbishment risk out of the sale price and make it "worth" $525K. And the color combination is pleasing - if not all original (was Marrone/Maroon).

    I don't totally disagree that the auction houses you mention are a bit better barometer than some of the others, but the newcomers are also featuring vehicles targeted at discriminating buyers and seem to be attracting upscale bidders to their rooms. Thus, their sale prices "count" in the market similarly. And we can't forget the online houses that are changing the way these cars are being sold as well. All sales count towards what makes the market...
     
  8. redfred84

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    the car at Ottis may be marketed through Patrick's son, Tazio; not necessarily Patrick Ottis & Co. I think Tazio's company is OTS. Tell him Red Fred sent you.
     
  9. JohnnyRay

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    Found it. OTSandco is the business name. The exterior shots of the car appear nice...but the interior is disgusting. Dirty and worn out. Not even close to what I would consider "patina". No under hood or trunk shots, apparently no tools or manuals and no description either. Could be a good candidate for a restoration, but it's not quite a driver...and the link identifies it as a project.

    It is listed as "sold" though. I wonder what it went for?

    https://www.otsandco.com/project/1966-ferrari-330gtc
     
  10. donv

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    It is funny how people view things differently. I think the interior is fine-- yes, it could use a bit of a cleaning, but the leather is not torn and doesn't appear to be hard or dried out. I would drive it as-is, assuming mechanicals are okay and there isn't much rust.

    I think many people who spend $400-500k on a vintage Ferrari expect to get a new car for that sort of money.

     
  11. JohnnyRay

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    I just don't prefer the look of a dirty/worn tan interior. Grey or white is even worse. Yet I like any color interior over black. Reds and blues always seem to look sharp.

    I actually have a very realistic perspective on what can be had for the price range indicated. What I have found interesting is the number of recent auctions that have stopped at/or just short of $400K for 330GTCs with needs. Buyers seem to be more aware of the cost to refurbish each portion of these cars - and it quickly can add up. No one ever says "I spent a lot less on my restoration than I thought I would".
     
  12. merstheman

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    Well they have a silver car for sale with great provenance....

    (black interior, though...)
     

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