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  1. Aardy

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    Look the rounded rear arches : it’s 0440MD…
     
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  2. nico308

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    Thank you .
     
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  3. Aardy

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    8 May 1955, Grand Prix des Voitures de Série, Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium


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    #19 166 MM/53 Olbin Spyder 0300M Jacques Herzet 9th Ecurie Francorchamps
    #31 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0440MD Jean Lucas DNF Scuderia Los Amigos
    #32 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0526M Jean Estager DNF
    #33 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0552M Jacques Swaters 2nd Equipe Nationale Belge
    #34 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0518M Roger Laurent 3rd Equipe Nationale Belge

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  4. Aardy

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  5. Aardy

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    8 May 1955, Coppa Lombardia, Monza, Italy

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    #330 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder ???
    #332 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0514M Luigi Piotti 2nd
    #334 212 Inter Vignale Coupe 0237EU Bruno Moroni ??
    #338 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0500M Piero Carini 1st
     
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  6. turbo-joe

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    3 races on the same day at 3 different locations - belgium, france and italy
     
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  7. ERault

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    This is supposed to show the mysterious n330 Ferrari (wrongly attributed to Carini ?) :

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1955-05-08_Coppa_Lombardia_Monza_Ferrari_750_0500M_Carini.jpg

    Frustratingly I can't find period reports for the Coppa Lombardia.
     
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  9. Admiral Goodwrench

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    This was a crazy time in the engine shop at Ferrari. With all of the motor failures at LeMan and earlier they may have been working around the clock on just four cylinder motors. The motor in my car was rebuilt with a new unnumbered crankcase and the head from the prototype motor originally in 0512/MD. Attached is the dyno page from this rebuild and is the motor in my car the I bought it in 1960. In many case the failures were apparently due to using the wrong kind of steel in the connecting rods which were just fine in compression but inadequate in tension. I suppose that the Ferrari experience with the lightweight 12 cylinder pistons did not work so well when requiring conn rods to stop the big and heavy 4 cylinder pistons at the top of the stroke. They must have changed things at the time since my motor went on to survive numerous races with no problem.
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  10. Sempre_gilles

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    #2135 Sempre_gilles, May 8, 2025 at 3:17 PM
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    Also:
    #20 166 MM Berlinetta 0048 M Marcel Willemin 4th in class Sport under 2.6
     
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  11. Sempre_gilles

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    Even more than 3:
    - several races at the 17° Eläintarhanjo Djurgardsloppet (Helsinki Grand Prix ) in Helsinki (Finland)
    - 22° Coppa Gallenga (Italy)
    - 8° Gran Premio di Napoli had a "Corsa Sport Internazionale" support race (Italy)
    - Nationaler Automobil-Slalom Dübendorf (Switserland)
     
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  12. Marcel Massini

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    Photo?

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  13. Sempre_gilles

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    Sorry, I have no photo. But: while a photo can prove that a certain car & driver participated in a race, absence of a photo can mean a lot of different things: no pic was taken / pics were taken but got lost or were never published / car & driver did NOT participate.

    Willemin was at least entered in this race.
     

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  14. Marcel Massini

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    At the time (8 May 1955) the car was still in Italian ownership (Macchieraldo) and on Italian license plates.
    Naturally Willemin could have been entered with this car, which he acquired much later. And there was one more owner between Macchieraldo (8th owner) and Willemin (10th owner).

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  15. Sempre_gilles

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    It seems that Willemin was in an optimistic mood when he entered for Spa and expected to have access to a race car at May 8th.
    It might have been 0048 M but that is pure speculation without photo or other proof.

    This source Grand Prix Spa 1955 - Race Results - Racing Sports Cars (which is quite reliable) lists a class result suggesting that Willemin did participate.
     
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    7 May 1955, Gran Premio di Napoli, Corsa Sport fino a 2000, Italy
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    166 MM Touring Barchetta 0044M Silvio De Vetis DNF

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    #44 Maserati A6GCS/53 Luigi Bellucci (the car at right on the pic).
     
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    Willemin already raced a 2000cc Ferrari at the Côte de Verbois in april (1st in the sport 2000 class). No photo, so unsure if 0048 M.
     
  18. Aardy

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    8 May 1955, Coppa Gallenga, Italy

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    Oltre 2000 cc.

    250 MM Vignale Spyder 0296MM (?) Inico Bernabei Ferrari 3000 1st IC
    750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0516M (?) Camillo Luglio Ferrari 3000 2nd IC
    750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0530M (?) Luigi Bordonaro di Chiaramonte Ferrari 3000 3rd IC

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    Mercedes 300 SL Salvatore Casella 1st overall
     
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  19. Aardy

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    If Camillo Luglio was at Coppa Gallenga on 8 May 1955, I think now our unkown #330 at Coppa Lombardia the same day could be Mario Bornigia with 0538M...
     
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    One more : Pasquini crashed his "berlinetta Ferrari 3000", with much damage to the car but none to him.
     
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  21. Aardy

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    Oh yes, we talked about this car in the Ferrari Gran Turismo thread. Apparently a 250 Europa...
     
  22. Aardy

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    8 may 1955, Eläintarhanajo, Helsinki, Finland

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    #3 166 MM Touring Barchetta 0014M Bengt Jonsson 11th
    #6 250 MM Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0252MM Björn Martensson 2nd
    #7 250 MM Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0344MM Carl Lohmander 9th

    4 500 Mondial Valdemar Stener DNA

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    #14 Jaguar C-type Curt Lincoln

    Note : racingsportscars website has several pics of this race.

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    #7 375 MM Scaglietti Spyder 0366M Valdemar Stener DNF (heavily crashed)
    #9 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0470MD Gunnar Carlsson DNF (crankshaft)

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    #1 Jaguar D-type Michael Head
     
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    Correct results:
    #3 166 MM Touring Barchetta 0014M Bengt Jonsson - 4th in 2-litre series production sportscar race.
    #6 250 MM Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0252MM Björn Martensson - 2nd in over 2-litre series production sportscar race.
    #7 250 MM Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0344MM Carl Lohmander - 6th in over 2-litre series production sportscar race.

    0366AM was only mildly damaged when trying to get ahead Micheal Head's D-type. Stener lost control, upset the gardener by running over some bushes and eventually hit a tree - mildly. Rumors of a heavy crash were invented by people trying to explain why it was rebodied in the first place.
     
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  24. Sempre_gilles

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    And:

    #244 0360 AM, Franco Meloni, result unknown (and I have no pics)
     
  25. Marcel Massini

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    8 May 1955:
    To be a bit more precise:
    XV Vermicino-Rocca di Papa hillclimb near Rome, XXII Coppa Gallenga.

    Marcel Massini
     
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