Scuderia Ferrari 2025

I do agree that Charles is overpaid for a non WDC, to a point. My point is that Ferrari didn't seize the opportunity to build a team because they felt signing a has been to sell hats was more important than car performance.

Rare poor take from The RAce. Leclerc was faster once again all race just unlucky, only reason Lewis went from 6th to 4th at all was because of the Leclerc/Albon issue.

 

/\ /\ Reminds me of Abu Dhabi 2021. Now all a sudden people have a problem with safety cars and pit stops

 

Leclerc must be among the 3 or 4 fastest drivers of the moment, but Ferrari isn't the team to win him championships, probably.
Having dedicated his career to the Scuderia, it will be difficult for him to seek another berth.
Not knowing if he is on the wish list of team principals, it's difficult to imagine where he could go.

 

Is Charles Leclerc the new Chris Amon ?
When he was finally completely disheartened of Ferrari constant failure, Amon drove for mid-field teams like March, Matra, Tecno, Ensign, BTM, Tyrrell and even his own Amon car. It was a trajic end of career.

 

Over one lap there is no one quicker than Leclerc not even Max.... overall package though for me it is still Max and peak Lewis they are still the gold standard. I am very impressed by Piastri though.

Funny enough I thought having a driver with leadership skills like Lewis would help Leclerc but it seems to me that he is a little fed with it all. He wants to be fighting Max like he did in early 22.

 

Imola, Sainz starts 6th ends 8th, Albon starts 7th ends 5th. Season pts, Albon 40 Sainz 11. Sainz needs to pick up his "out pacing Albon"

 

Ferrari kept the driver who flatters best their image.

 

Since you always say that the final results are what matters, maybe you can show the statistics that prove your assertion.
Leclerc vs Sainz stats - head-to-head - Formula 1 points

 

For me the bottomline is pretty clear:
Ferrari would be achieving similar results without the cost of Hamilton.

The reason why on the other hand, completely debatable, imho, this echoes past instances where the "acquisition" of a WDC appears to be some sort of smokescreen to distract from the team's incompetence in developing a competitive car...was really hoping Fred would put an end to that, but seems like just more of the same.

 

One good change is that Ferrari has really improved their pit stops. 2.04 last weekend.

 

Agreed. Really doing well in 2025.

That's the only takeaway from this team.

 

Wasn't Charles pit during the VSC >3?

 

Pit stops are easy when nothing is on the line.

 

Well, it's Ferrari's 1st year where they've been consistent in the DHL fastest pit stop for most of the races in 2025.

 

There are no stats that prove my assertion !
We are not talking in terms of racing results here.

Charles Leclerc is more a poster idol that Carlos Sainz Jr, that's why he was kept.
His image of a good looking diletante playboy explained by @DF1 on post#284 fits admirably Ferrari agenda.
They want to re-invent themselves as a luxury brand that goes racing as an aside.

 

Leclerc outperformed Sainz three out of the four seasons they were together. I like Carlos just fine, but I fail to see how he would possibly do better in a title fight when he was outperformed by his teammate three years in a row.

 

Honestly, with the way they are running things, you're most likely right! He was not kept because he's the better driver, even though he is.

 

Maybe Sainz isn't faster than Leclerc, but he looks more steady and less emotional.
Also Sainz can think his own strategy, where Leclerc waits for the pitwall to tell him what to do.
Less whining from the Spaniard too ...

 

This, all of this:
Charles Leclerc is more a poster idol that Carlos Sainz Jr, that's why he was kept.
His image of a good looking diletante playboy explained by @DF1 on post#284 fits admirably Ferrari agenda.
They want to re-invent themselves as a luxury brand that goes racing as an aside.

 

For whatever reason, people likes to criticize even the things that are somehow working, I don´t know exactly why. Maybe it´s the mentality of "everyting is wrong, level it and start from scratch", or maybe it´s that some like to play the smart ass.

Leclerc has outpaced and outscored Sainz more often than not. Maybe Sainz is very good at reading strategies but the results don´t show it. If they had kept Sainz instead of him you´d be saying that keeping the slower driver was stupid. He moans, but less than the average in F1. Some are even criticizing him for his looks. Come on, guys...

The bad idea was bringing Hamilton, we already had a good pair of drivers. But that´s another story and I get that maybe it was a rare chance they didn´t want to let pass. Anyway, so far Leclcerc is also outpacing and outscoring Hamilton. It´s the second time he does that to a multiple times world champion. I don´t know if Leclerc is champion material, but he´s indeed the Destroyer of Champions.