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  1. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    does anyone know how Prema is funded?

    Ganassi playing hall monitor to catch Penske cheating at Indy is pretty funny
     
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    Prema has been around forever.... big surprise to me when they turned up in indycar.
     
  3. GuyIncognito

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    same as Carlin. I kinda miss them. I think they added more to Indycar than Juncos
     
  4. rob lay

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    maybe some genius European racing engineers showing some Americans how it is done?

    I've always felt like European racing compared to American is like Americans trying to be good at Soccer compared to Europeans. No matter how hard you try and money you spend, it just can't be done at that top level.

    Heck, even when I raced Spec RX7 I raced against a Scot and Aussie, even at that amateur level their attention to excellence with the details mechanical and driving were just crazy. I have hundreds of stories, they were just born with it and then brought the skills over to America.
     
  5. GuyIncognito

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    Prema's results so far this year. so in this case.....no.

    they are 25th and 26th out of 27 full time entries. the car behind them (#51 of Jacob Abel) failed to qualify for the 500

    that's what makes their performance here so shocking. Shwartzman never been on an oval, I don't think the team has either.

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  6. steved033

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    European teams approach racing as a business, not something fun you do on weekends. Don't confuse that with not being serious. All professional American teams are serious. The mentality is definitely different.
     
  7. rob lay

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    I'm not confusing the two, I'm just saying the level of amateur racing approach was completely different as the Europeans had more experience and competitiveness to focus on details that Americans just didn't know better even at the lowest level.

    If Europe is F1, Le Mans, dozens of road and open wheel series, F2. There is 20x the number of professionals involved with top level racing in Europe, then with all that experience and resources why wouldn't they sometimes have an edge? I don't think it is a bad theory how a European team and racer new to ovals was able to come in and qualify on pole. Ohh wait, he did.
     
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  8. GuyIncognito

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    Penske penalizes Penske :p

    good call IMO

     
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    History trivia buffs: Has any car ever won the 500 when starting from the last row?
     
  10. GuyIncognito

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    #135 GuyIncognito, May 19, 2025 at 11:14 AM
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    So the 100 Grand fine goes from Roger's left pocket to his right one?!:p
     
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    Marshall Pruett just did a Reel from the IMS museum showing Newgarden's winning car from last year with the exact same illegal modification on it. Oooops.
     
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  13. GuyIncognito

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    probably, unless it gets added to the leader circle money
     
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    Ganassi didn't complain soon enough
     
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    With everything being so spec these days, it kinda makes me smile that people are still pushing the rules.
     
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    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1241014697425093
     
  17. GuyIncognito

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    Paul Tracy is having a field day with this on his Instagram stories :D
     
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    The screen shots he posted are all from Marshall Pruett's videos he posted I think.

    For better or worse I am actually even more interested in this year's race because of this.
     
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    PT heard a “rumor” that other teams mentioned the attenuator issue at the 500 last year and IndyCar tech did nothing about it
     
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    Yeah one of the videos MP posted yesterday he reads out loud a text from another Indycar team manager saying the same thing. He couldn't reveal the source.
     
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    The Lance Armstrong Race Series. Serial cheater and owner lol. No thanks. IndyCar is clearly not worth the effort if Tech Scrutineering is that pathetic. How far back should they dare to look to see what else they missed.
     
  22. DF1

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    Rudderless leadership. They use the word 'integrity' concerning this lol. No......just a big no. Pathetic. Manage optics. Gutless enforcement and attitude.
    https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/indycar-president-qualifying-scandal-devastating-roger-penske/10724537/

    This is also an awkward position for Roger Penske, who of course owns the cars driven by Newgarden and Power, but also runs IndyCar in its entirety. This is not the first a scandal involving the Penske cars has arisen since Roger took control of the series with the 2024 push-to-pass (P2P) controversy being another unfortunate highlight. So where does Roger stand on all of this?

    "I've known Roger Penske for an awful long time, and I've gotten to know him really well since November 2019," said Boles. "I don't think Roger Penske understands some of the things that might be going on.

    "I get the optics challenge, and it's definitely something we should think about. I mean, how do you manage the optics challenge? A lot of these challenges I think are -- while they roll up to Roger at the end of the day, I think they are certainly below him. There are things that happen that don't ever get to Roger.

    "I can tell you that Roger Penske would not condone this. In fact, I had a chance to talk to Roger, and I can tell that this is devastating to him. Nothing means more to Roger Penske than the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the Indianapolis 500. He certainly loves racing across the board. This is something that I think he's going to have to address at some point in time."

    As for who made the final call to penalize Team Penske, Boles explained that it was a group of officials including himself and IndyCar CEO Mark Miles. However, he stressed that Roger Penske "was not involved" in the decision in any way.

    "I didn't sleep at all last night," said Boles. "You probably can't tell, but I frankly didn't take a shower this morning. My hair is a mess. The first thing I did this morning was call Mark [Miles]. Mark basically said the same thing. The two of us sat down and started thinking through what is the appropriate thing to make sure that we're managing the integrity of the Indianapolis 500?"
     

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