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  1. Buchpilot

    Buchpilot Formula Junior

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    #7801 Buchpilot, May 16, 2025 at 5:46 AM
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  2. Rosey

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    #7802 Rosey, May 16, 2025 at 8:42 PM
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    At nearly 6 times the price of the standard book I think that's a wise decision Sven.

    Swiftly sold out might be a stretch due to the limited appeal of the 275 P but lets see.

    Certainly a big price jump compared to their Exceptional / Great Car Series that this book would seem to belong to (if not labeled as such).
     
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  3. Rosey

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    (also they might have to change the title after the Ferrari 499P won in 2023 and 2024) ;)
     
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  4. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    Yes but it wasn't the same chassis.
     
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  5. Yan-Alexandre

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    Who knows ? A bit off topic, sorry, but is there a way to know the chassis numbers used in each race ? Have they even disclosed the number of chassis assembled since 2023? I wonder if the 50 (or 50s) is still 50, or if it is sometimes 51.

    (I have seen the ‘winning car’ of 2023 up close several times... I don't know what to think, the surface condition is very strange, it could be due to the varnish used to stabilise its surface, but its ‘war wounds’ give me the impression to simply be a printed covering)
     
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  6. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    At Le Mans Classic 2023, a few weeks after car 51 won, the one displayed was not the real one, it also had a plastic transparent fake steering wheel.

    At Retromobile 2024 early February, it was the real one....at least so it appeared.

    Don't forget that after the second LM24 victory in 2024 Ferrari had both the 2023 and 2024 winners displayed (in a room with large bay windows) at Fiorano. They may well have retired one or both of them for posterity.

    Still your idea of a film showing squashed mosquitoes and grime is interesting....
     
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  7. Rosey

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    Yep, that's true.
     
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  8. Nembo1777

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    Here to conclude this off topic episode both LM 2023 and 2024 winners displayed at the Cavallino event in Italy this week in the old livieries (different on this year's cars). Photo copyright Cavallino.

    They have clearly been retired for safe keeping and display as the pieces of major Ferrari history that they are. Rightly so.



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  9. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

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    My copy just arrived today so I have only just flicked through so far. It is a small book and only 95 pages. Some of the photo reproduction is a bit variable. However, whilst the book is small, so is the price. From a quick glance the text looks readable and interesting.

    The author, John Starkey, started this topic https://forums.autosport.com/topic/223531-1950-51-52-ferrari-tipo-375f1indianapolis/ on the Autosport Nostalgia forum whilst researching the book.
     
  10. Yan-Alexandre

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    Until I have confirmation, it could very well be a rolling model or a replacement car... Remember the Porsche 917 #001 converted into a 917-K, painted like the 1970 Le Mans winner and presented as such for years in various museums and exhibitions... In 2010, I saw with my own eyes how the Jeff Koons BMW Art Car was stripped of its bodywork after its crash at Le Mans... before reaching the parc fermé ! Now try to prove what chassis it's on without seeing the plate (and even then).
    Anyway, enough of this off-topic discussion, sorry!
     
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  11. Sempre_gilles

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    Thank you for this info, very useful.
     
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  13. Rosey

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    Is there anything left to discuss that the Dino Compendium hasn't covered?
     
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  14. Yan-Alexandre

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    The main difference is that the chassis register list is more comprehensive, including all colours available at the time of delivery (bodywork and interior), the exact date of assembly and the name of the importer to whom the vehicle was shipped – information that is not available in the Compendium.
    I understand that Cyrille Jaquinot's book is aimed more at automotive professionals than the general public.
     
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  15. Yan-Alexandre

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    At the other end of the spectrum, this one seems pretty unnecessary.

    [​IMG]
    Book title
    The Ferrari Book
    Subtitle
    The Car Book Series
    Publisher
    Die Gestalten Verlag GmbH und Co. KG
    Release date
    10.6.2025
    Format
    29 x 37 cm | 11 2/5 x 14 1/2 in.
    Language
    English & German
    Pages
    304
    Images
    approx. 250 color photographs
    Price
    € 100 | $ 125 | £ 89,95
    Finish / Special Book-Work
    Hardcover
    Category
    Mobility & Motorsport, Preview Spring 2025
    ISBN (DE)
    978-3-9617-1676-0
     
  16. piloti

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  17. jtremlett

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    So, in other words, exactly what is available in the registry on the Ferrari Beverly Hills website. I wonder if it will have the same errors? Looking at the sample pages in that link, it looks like it has been directly lifted from the Ferrari Beverly Hills website. I'm not impressed!
     
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  18. piloti

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    Seems VERY expensive; E480 for 170 pages.
    Nathan
     
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  19. Buchpilot

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    I am happy owner of both the brochure and the real book. And I must say that the brochure has been produced very well and offers an authentic preview of this magnificent book. While the format is slightly smaller than the book, the brochure is printed on the same kind of heavy, precious paper, and the choice of sample pages from the book is excellent as an appetizer.

    I wished Ferrari had done such a brochure for the monumental "Endurance" book as well, which is far out of reach for me as a collector.
     
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  20. Nembo1777

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    I thought it was a typo, 48 Euros but apparently not...wow...

    So I guess at that page/price ratio I should have sold my Maserati the Citroen years, 510 pages, 160000 words of research and interviews for 1500 Euros instead of 120...I guess it is a question of what motivates you, passion or...
     
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  21. Yan-Alexandre

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    Oh my, no one have seen the book, but critics are already on fire !

    Cyrille is a historian specialising in Ferrari. His writings are based on his own research, his extensive personal archives and his access to other important archives. You will find no plagiarism or errors here.

    This is a print-on-demand publication. Do you have any idea how much it will cost? Once again, this is not a book intended for the general public. Those who are interested in his work and know the value of this information have already ordered it...
     
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  22. jtremlett

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    I looked at some of the records shown on the sample page linked above in the registry on the Ferrari Beverly Hills website and even the punctuation is identical!!! in this case I suggest his own research means copying from the Ferrari Beverly Hills website. If that is not the case, then I will be delighted if he would like to post here and tell me I'm wrong. Regardless, whilst I appreciate the work Cyrille may have put in, I cannot see why someone would want to pay €480 for something they can get for free, even if it isn't intended for the general public.
     
  23. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

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    You could still do a super limited edition of say 25 copies, wrapped in the remains of a crashed SM of some celebrity. I'm sure there are some completists/fetishists out there happy to fork out for you to fly privately for the rest of your life!
     
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  24. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    Yes, brilliant idea, wealth at last;-).

    A celebrity crashed SM...like the one Soviet Union president Leonid Brejnev was gifted by Citroen and the French state while on a state visit to Paris.

    He went for a drive alone near the Soviet Embassy and had a fender bender in traffic.

    He told the other driver who he was and the response was: "Yes and I am the Pope."
     
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