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  1. Dwathencars

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    #1 Dwathencars, May 22, 2025 at 1:28 PM
    Hi. Any thoughts on the black/black Spyder conversion currently selling on BAT? The provenance seems good with much spending on restoration. Thanks. Dave
     
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    #2 turbo-joe, May 22, 2025 at 3:37 PM
    why not post a link so everybody just can have a look at?
     
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    #3 Dwathencars, May 22, 2025 at 4:38 PM
    Good idea. Its in the Premium listings on BAT. I'm trying to post a link but having a problem with getting it to upload.I'll try again The auction ends tomorrow.
     
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    #5 Shark01, May 23, 2025 at 9:56 PM
    Went for $850k plus fees
     
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    #6 toparkt, May 23, 2025 at 9:59 PM
    shocking
     
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    #7 375+, May 23, 2025 at 10:20 PM
    Hard to believe that it's a genuine sale, but stranger things have happened. Too bad it's not still a plexiglass berlinetta . . .
     
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    #8 toparkt, May 23, 2025 at 10:39 PM
    exactly
     
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    #9 Edward 96GTS, May 24, 2025 at 10:56 AM
    were these chopped daytonas done purely to do quick flips to capitalize on genuine spyder price premiums?
    i dont think the chopped cars had the chassis reinforements such a front steel inner fenders.
    does anyone know if the 10 275 NART spyders had any chassis reinforcements fitted?
     
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    #10 Shark01, May 24, 2025 at 11:09 AM
    Since these were all done in the 70s, I don't think they were done for monetary gain, but because the factory only made 122 to start with and Ferrari wasn't producing any other V12 convertibles at the time.

    Lamborghini didn't produce a factory Roadster until 1997 so there was a definate shortage of V12 convertible options for decades.
     
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    #11 Dwathencars, May 24, 2025 at 11:24 AM
    I’m the buyer. What attracted me is that the conversion to Spyder is thorough including steel front inner fenders and proper rear bulkhead and top bows, the overall mileage seems to be quite low, and approx $700k spent on restoration/refurbishment with very few miles since. I like the colors a lot, and this fits well with our other cars like our (real) 289 Cobra, 1964 Maserati Vignale Spyder, Mercedes 280 SE Cabriolet 3.5, and three open Jaguars - 66 Etype, 53 XK120 and 1938 SS100. I’m a retired Purdue Mech Engineer who had a career that allows us to indulge our car activities.and I do everything I can myself on our collector cars - basically everything except paint, chrome and upholstery. I’m 3 years into restoration of the 1938 3 1/2 Litre SS100 that I’m doing everything possible myself. Lori and I do various shows and mostly tours (the Etype is currently in England for us to do a tour there) and a Daytona is relatively roomy and road worthy. With the SS100 consuming much of my “fun” time I wanted a ready-to-drive open Ferrari. I’m certainly familiar with the “Is it Real?” Questions since I own and drive a real 289 Cobra so I know how to be “polite” and informative.
    So - I hope to see some of you at various events and swap fun stories. (Like getting chrome done well…). We live in Michigan. Dave
     
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    #12 375+, May 24, 2025 at 1:09 PM
    Disagree. Daytona Spyders were among the first road going Ferrari to sell for six figures in the market boom of the 1980s. A cut car used to sell for a healthy premium over the berlinetta. If I heard the expression "a Scaglietti cut" once I heard it a hundred times.
     
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    #13 miurasv, May 24, 2025 at 1:16 PM
    According to Oscar Scaglietti they did.
     
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    #14 Edward 96GTS, May 24, 2025 at 1:18 PM
    what type of chassis reinforcements?
     
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    #15 miurasv, May 24, 2025 at 1:31 PM
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    In Octane Magazine (December, 2013) there is a feature on the ex Eddie Smith 275 GTB/4 NART Spider #10709. There are lots of pictures of the car with driving impressions gained from then owner Clive Beecham's #10749, but alas no pictures of that beauty.

    There is also an interview with Oscar Scaglietti, the son of Sergio who worked for the firm his father founded from the late 1950s to 1997. He talks about how the NART Spider came into being at the request of Luigi Chinetti. The details were discussed over lunch with EF and LC writing the details on a piece of paper, with the agreed cost of every request. What I found interesting, and was pleased to learn, which is in contradiction to what I have read in other (incorrect) articles on the NART, is the extra strengthening that went into the car to allow for it having no roof. The 275 GTB/4 tipo 596 chassis had transverse members added to the longitudinal rails, as well as other minor things; the body panels were also more time consuming to make due to their extra strength.
     

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