Ferrari monoposto thread

I'll be different

On January 18th for the Argentine GP I have Ascari #10, Farina #12, Villoresi #14 and Hawthorn #16

For the Buenos Aires GP on February 1, I have this:

Farina #10 (625 FL)
Villoresi #14 (625 FL)
Hawthorn #16 (625 FL)
Ascari #18 (375 F1)
Marimon #56 (166 xx)
Lopes #?? (166 FL)

I have this as a photo of the start. Ascari, Villoresi, Farina and Hawthorn on the front row.

Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Thats a 375F1 nose alright. Thanks

 

Yes. There were four 500s competing in the Argentine GP a fortnight earlier. The engines were replaced with the 625s for the Buenos Aires GP. Ascari set the fastest time in practice with the 375 and, I assume, preferred that.

 

Fuoriconcorso Como

the first Ferrari Turbo car ever

Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Was anyone here at the FCA Annual Meet in Hershey, PA in 1980?
Francois Secard brought an interesting monoposto.
It was a Curtis with a Ferrari inline six.
As I recall, it was set up for the indianapolis 500.
Anyone know the car?

Bob Z.

 

https://simeonemuseum.org/collection/1956-ferrari-kurtis-kraft-bardahl-special/

 

The car that Jose Froilan Gonzalez took to Argentina was #0482, not #0566. Allan Morris and I have had a wonderful time over the last couple of years identifying these F1/F2/FL cars for my book, "Ferrari, The Monopostos of 1948-1952". (Amberley Publishers UK). No idea about cars re-using the #0566 number, we didn't find that in our research..
The Ecclestone car, 1951 Chassis number 5, was re-numbered for its first race, The Italian GP of 1951, as chassis number 52?/1 as the A.C. Milan gave extra starting money for new cars of Italian origin.

 

The 1953 Indianapolis Tipo 375:
SWB car raced in Turin by Villoresi in April 4th, 1952. Then to Britain for Silverstone (2nd), and Boreham.(1st). Sold to Chinetti in 1953 as 0388. Rebuilt for Indianapolis 500 with new longer "Tuboscocca" chassis.

 

I have a question (maybe I knew the answer, but have forgotten it - brain fade!) Where do these chassis numbers come from? All I can say is that I personally have seen the 1950 official Ferrari race book, and also photocopies of other 1950s race books and they do not have chassis numbers in them.
Also, I have seen Enzo signed internal race team documents from the same period that refer to F1 and they don’t have chassis number either. So how do people know what the chassis numbers were? I'm only asking about factory entered cars, not cars after they were sold. Anyone enlighten me? Thanks
Nathan

 

Just received the book, “Ferrari, The Monopostos of 1948-52” by John Starkey. It’s only small size, app 9” x 6.5”, and 95 pages, but it’s also only a small price!

There are some nice period photos that I haven’t seen before, but I’m disappointed that there are no results tables. I know that the author tried to identify the cars individually and follow their racing history so it would have been nice to have had the cars identified individually in tables so one could follow their evolution.

Just my two-pennorth!

Nathan

 

Not a fan of his work.

 

From the back cover:

"By 1951, his new 4.5-litre F1 cars were beating his old nemesis, Alfa Romeo, on their way to winning the World Championship."

The 4.5 litre F1 cars did not win the World Championship.

 

Do you mean 375 F1 n.5 was renumbered after its first race to appear as a new car at the 1951 Italian GP, which it won?

 

I'm afraid you have misquoted by omission. It reads,
"By 1951, his new 4.5-litre F1 cars were beating his old nemesis, Alfa Romeo, on their way to winning the World Championship in 1952 and 1953"

 

No I haven't, and it was the Tipo 500 cars that won the World Championship in 1952 and 1953 where cars that counted towards the Championship matched F2 Regulations.

Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

My apologies.

 

Thank you Allan!

Piloti: I have a complete database on these pre-1953 cars that I have kept for over 30 years.
The book size: The Publisher insisted on 20,000 words or less. I had written 40,000 but had to edit it down to fit their requirements, so the database, for one, had to go.

Miura SV: Yes, 1951 375 F1 #5 was numbered as #1 for the Italian Grand Prix of that year. 1951 375 F1 #6 was numbered as #2 for that same race. As Doug Nye has previously pointed out, there were two #2s at that same race, One the above car and the other was the British Grand Prix winning 12-plug car of 1951, (Jose Froilan Gonzalez), which had, by then, become the Muletto, (practice car) .

 

Hi John, that’s a pity. I would have happily paid more for a book with the database. It makes the book so much more useful. However, it’s still a nice little book.
Nathan

 

Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Piloti, Sempre_Gilles: I agree with both of you but the Publisher calls the tune....