Why does "everyone" prefer the 458 over the 488?

haha, I really liked mine. I feel the F8 just 'corrected' some aesthetic issues and looks so much better. The F430 did that for the 360 too. It fixed all the 'bad' aesthetics of the 360 inside and out. And the 355 did it for the 348... etc etc etc. It's all opinion so who really cares but if we are really honest, every single Ferrari gets better than the previous one in the same line. 'Favorite' to me just means the one that has the nicest aesthetics and best FEEL. They're all fantastic of course; that's why we buy them.

 

LOL, it didn't matter......it was boring....different strokes and all

 

Comparing them here, in our 'for sale' section, they look damned near identical to me.
Headlights are a little different, but that doesn't change the looks much.

 

In YOUR opinion.

'Trust me'??? LOL!

I'll take an F50 - to me that is the best - but that's ME, others will say an Enzo, or a 275, or a 330, or a Daytona or an F40,
the best one ever made is the one YOU like the best, MY opinion doesn't matter.
Everyone knows that...

 

I've had both and love them both. The only thing I actually miss about my 458 is the high rev sound. I actually prefer the low rev sound on the 488, it sounds way meaner than the 458 (which is how it's driven 90% of the time. But that 10% really makes the 458 great!)
It's funny how everyone puts sound so high up on the priority list, and I get that, I agree since it's one of the main senses that get excited when driving a sports car. But then those same people that hate the 488 for it's sound say that they prefer the F8, which sounds way worse than a 488, so what gives?

 

I prefer my 488 Spider, but I'm biased because I have one. A used 458 competes with a C8 Z06, but the 488 is in a different league.

 

I’d choose a 488 over a 458 any day
458 getting on a bit now
However the F8 would be my choice

 

I’m wondering when people will start realizing how cutting edge Ferrari has been. Chevy copies an15 yr old car to make their latest and greatest. Cool Chevy, you’re 15 years late to the party. People are talking about flexi wings in F1. Ferrari has been doing flexi wings since the 458. They’ve had some amazing, ahead of their time innovations.


Some clarification……by people, I mean general public. And full disclosure…..I do like Corvettes, Predominantly C1’s, C5’s, and C7’s.

 

Ferrari is not cutting edge development. Look at Mclaren's lead on an innovative carbon fiber chassis. Ferrari is based on an old aluminum chassis which are now available on most sport cars.

 

why are you “hanging” with newer Corvettes?

 

Leaving out the great generation of all? C2 dominates....

 

You just proved that there is something the 458 has that cannot be quantified that makes it similar in price to the "better" 488. The market has spoken. People will pay for what they subjectively value: appearance and sound being two examples.

 

The quad headlight ‘62 is my all time fav. The one in the movie True Lies that Arnold drives and scares the crap outta the salesman who was trying to hit on his wife. lol

 

if you have to ask, thou shalt never know

 

488 is often lower priced because of its proximity to the latest car as Its a couple of editions stale. This is the typical Ferrari market cycle.. The 458 is on its standard rise as “the next modern classic”. It did have a limited low point and it was briefly low because it was the first of a time when Pininfarina “hit it out of the park again”. It is still obviously a timeless classic Ferrari beauty after the “jellybean” cars. The 488 is where Ferrari likely took the next Pininfarina evolution roadmap design and claimed the credit for it. The refinements of the 488, coupled with the “light speed superior performance” of the 488 and it genius turbo application is a manifestation of Ferrari magic where the soul meets body. The look of the outside perfected the 458 imperfections and if it had the F12 climate vents on the inside I think Ferrari would have dropped the Mic right there and ceased to design anything else. It’s that perfect.

 

Here we go again .

Much of it is subjective, especially the looks. 488 is newer and is generally an improvement on things like handling/telematics. I believe the engine sits lower in the 488 likely as its a slightly smaller unit being lower displacement. Performance wise, while the 488 has more HP/lighter it isn't actually much faster due to the torque curve and ability to get the power down although. Subjectively I found the 488 felt quicker due to the turbos which gives that kick when the turbo's bite. Reliability wise there are fewer things to go wrong with the 458, no turbo/waste gate/intercooler/oil pump for turbos etc. On the other hand, some aspects in the 488 get tweaked to improve reliability over the previous model. Same thing happened for 308->328, 360->430 (except manifolds), 458->488->F8

From a driving experience, I find driving a car with less power more engaging than one with more power. Its like driving a roadster and keeping the rpm's higher (Boxster vs 911) and squeezing the performance out. Same reason folks like stick/manual vs dual clutch/auto. The 488 being a higher powered car, when used on a regular road it just felt there were more times I couldn't get the power down/let the animal out. With the higher rpm/stock exhaust the 458 just screams while doing it. There are likely exhaust systems for the 488 that let you get there...straight pipes/different manufacturers etc. but with a 1K less rpm to the redline its already at a disadvantage acoustically, the 458 is good in stock OEM form.

The 458/488 discussion isn't unique to Ferrari. The same discussion is there for the 911 GT3 vs other newer turbo models. Many enthusiasts like the NA engines for the flatter torque curve/responsiveness, others like that turbo boost feel.

 

If anyone is interested, give this site a go and take with a grain of salt https://www.motormatchup.com. Plugging in late model 458 Italia vs earlier 488 GTB...not much difference performance even though the 458 @ 562HP vs 488 @ 661HP. I believe these are somewhat reflective of real-world.

Sorry if the formatting is messed up on the following
2014 Ferrari 458 Italia Coupe 2016 Ferrari 488 GTB Base 2DR
0-60 mph* 3.21 sec 3.24 sec
0-100 mph 7.18 sec 6.8 sec
¼ mile 11.18s @129.3mph 10.88s @133.3mph
Fuel Used 0.199 gal. 0.218 gal.

This has been posted before, but this is the epitome of the 458 series (Speciale) from a professional race driver. Plug that into the above and see the numbers change.

Here's the YouTube link to "The Stig" -

 

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If I wanted the shreek of a 458, I'd buy a civic.

 

This is just plain retarded.