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  1. sbenus

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    #26 sbenus, May 30, 2025
    Not sure but those probably won’t be the ones since the owner is hesitant to let them go.
     
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    #27 sbenus, May 30, 2025
    OK, but none of the three sets I’m considering are mint and restored as you say. Even the best one will need to be sanded and repainted at least. the other two definitely need reconditioning and restoration to some extent even before painting. I suppose I was more looking for information such as actual transaction prices in the last few months and years. Somebody posted a bring a trailer link which shows a set in what looks to be mint condition sold for $8500 earlier this year. That’s more along the lines of what type of information I was looking for if available. In your case, clearly you value them a lot and aren’t interested in selling. That’s not the kind of seller I’m inclined to hit up. That said, I do appreciate your knowledge on the topic And contributions.
     
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    #28 ShineKen, May 30, 2025
    Even the $8500 ones on BaT were just ok. Painted over lug seats. I’d look for a set to restore. My point was anyone selling “finished, ready-to-go” sets at $5-6k… I’d question how well they were really finished. I’d look for a decent condition set in the $4-5k range and restore them properly. You’ll probably be in it $7k all said and done, but at least you’ll know they’ll be at a certain standard.
     
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    #29 sbenus, May 30, 2025
    That sounds good to me. Thanks
     
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    #30 308 GTB, May 30, 2025
    Right, Ken. I still have 30 year-old rubbin' is racin' patina on one of my Challenge wheels...


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    It's still going strong.

    A few years ago at Lime Rock Park I saw a wheel fail on a Fiat 500 Abarth due to a manufacturing defect. Robb tells the story here: Take Your Best Shot-Best Photo of Your 355

    On examination later that day, it was noted that two other Fiat 500 Abarths had cracking at the hub.
     
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    #31 ShineKen, May 30, 2025

    I also own a Fiat 500 Abarth :).

    Would love to see pics of the wheels to see which ones they were. The original wheels for the Abarth, which were a spokey design, were forged wheels. Often referred to as “Superalloy.” At some point later, they were discontinued and now made cast alloy. Think $1500 per set. I wouldn’t be surprised those were the ones that blew up. They look identical to the forged originals, but just non-forged aluminum.


    I still have the forged superalloy originals on my car and apparently people are looking diligently for them and paying upwards of $3-4k for a set. Now I know why :).


    https://www.fiat500owners.com/threads/abarth-forged-17-wheels-where-your-money-went.8263/


    “Ahh here we go. Chrysler Part # 1VL35TRMAB, and if you paid attention in Chemistry class, it shows the "Superalloy" is an Aluminum, Magnesium 1 + Silicon + Copper alloy. This is the metallurgy trickery that makes the wheels super strong...and why they cost so much.”






    I also have a brand new set of OE Abarth wheels called “Ferrari Tributos.” They are cast alloy.
     
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    This is the best picture of the wheels I can find, Ken...


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    That might have been the car Robb was in that day.
     
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    #34 ShineKen, May 30, 2025
    Those are after-market wheels. Most likely a budget cast alloy wheel.
     
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    #35 308 GTB, May 31, 2025 at 2:02 AM
    That wheel had just minutes to live. Fortunately no one was hurt.

    You get what you pay for.
     
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    #36 ShineKen, May 31, 2025 at 11:30 AM
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    #37 ShineKen, May 31, 2025 at 11:31 AM
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    #38 ShineKen, May 31, 2025 at 11:34 AM
    New, they are a single stage paint. There is some orange peel, but you can cut and buff it out. With powdercoating, not so much.

    Those repainting probably should make a decision between single stage paint or 2 stage paint.
     
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    #39 sbenus, May 31, 2025 at 11:52 AM
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    #40 ShineKen, May 31, 2025 at 11:59 AM
    No. Just rare pics found on the internet. But my wheels were purchased new before I painted them.
     
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    #42 sbenus, May 31, 2025 at 4:05 PM
    Different topic but wondering if anybody knows if there is a weight difference in the optional OEM drilled rotors versus the stock ones and if so, what are those amounts?
     
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    #43 ShineKen, May 31, 2025 at 4:31 PM
    I weighed the drilled rotors. If you can find weights of new standard ones …
     
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    #44 sbenus, May 31, 2025 at 4:39 PM
    I probably have to wait until the car gets delivered and I swap the stock ones for the drilled which I’ve already purchased.
     
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    #45 ShineKen, May 31, 2025 at 4:47 PM
    I have used standard rotors as well, but they’re used… not sure if it’s a fair comparison.


    Drilled Rotors:

    Fronts - 17.4 lbs
    Rears - 16.4 lbs

    Why fronts are heavier than rears? No clue.
     
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    #46 sbenus, May 31, 2025 at 4:50 PM
    Maybe weigh the used ones just to have an idea?
     
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    #48 ShineKen, May 31, 2025 at 5:03 PM
    They’re in storage. 30k mi. Unless someone wants to buy em :). I can’t see the difference being much other than the weight difference of drilling holes.
     
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