Just posted two examples and ordered one, dealer demanded FROR on 599GTO included the option. passed due to FROR. The firms records - seriously? F80 is not more track focussed than the LaF? SF90 faster 4 years later than LaF. 599GTO faster 5 years later than Enzo 2030 Ferrari will have something faster - Mac Porsche Ferrari it's how they sell cars. F80 1184hp is less than Mac's W1 1258 hp and Porsche is up next.
the crazy thing is how this also translates to track performance too, the idea of just the base ferrari sportscar being faster round track than the F80 seems absurd but it'll happen as the cycle always repeats!
The uptick in performance is mainly down to new tyres. Put on the LaFerrari today's Cup 2 Rs and it will be quicker than the SF90. The F80 is next level, not only in terms of powertrain, but also suspension, brakes, electronics and aero. It will be several years till a series Ferrari surpasses its performance, as was also the case with previous Ferrari hypercars. Regarding the W1, we won't know until they are independently tested. There is nothing new from Porsche on the horizon.
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makes me wonder whether owners of older cars ever just change to modern tyres instead of changing models
A better tire sounds like something the original 1976 911 Turbo would benefit from to; with those driving characteristics toned down.
We all know tire improvements offer major difference, If you wan to get into modifications, there is no end game. LaF faster - on track will get demolished by XX 596 pounds torque vs 516 pounds LaF and less hp. If you believe that Ferrari XX is slower than LaF - let's go on track use whatever tires you wish on LaF winner takes the others car Very few factories go back and do tire development - owned CGT, Porsche did improve the tire 10 years later to slow down the lawsuits and gave owners 150k upgrade new tires for free 20 years after production. W1 - Mclaren has for years under stated hp, so expect more than stated in W1. F80 tech uses engine to work suspension this will be passed down - question is will they add aero for track - which is all I was saying and offered examples.
there's a prominent Mclaren F1 owner who was recently discussing how back when the CGT first came out he planned to enter it in a racing series on slicks with a few other modifications, he said that the car was seriously competitive on a different compound and would have smashed the competition
LaF is much lighter than SF90XX and you feel it. A comparison purely on horsepower and torque says nothing. Traction and downforce will make a big difference depending on track There isn’t much between the two on acceleration, so the only way for the SF90XX to pull ahead on similar tires is superior traction and aero I like both, but as a drivers car I d take the LaF, there is simply no comparison for driver feel
I've been saying - same. No offense but can you really can feel 96 pound difference between LaF and XX 3% of the car, given the new tech in SF90XX - keep in mind two versions. Would love to hear - Feel is always going to be better with 2wd vs Awd, it's a choice we all get to make. It's like comparing 296 vs SF90 - 296 & 296VS imo is a better feel than LaF and likely faster which goes back to the next gen being faster. Two different builds two different results - prefer downforce in track focus cars - that's all.
Trust me it is a lot more than. 96 pounds and yes you can really feel it Don’t get me wrong the SF90XX is an awesome machine, you will love it. Very far from a regular SF90. I also don’t understand why some publications made fun of the spider. Driving this car top down is incredible and compared to other Ferrari spiders there is very little chassis flex
The power and torque difference is easily compensated (and then some) by the weight difference. By the way, I was referring to the regular SF90, not the XX. Ferrari and Pirelli develop new tyres for the previous supercars/hypercars. They haven't reached the LaFerrari yet, but they have done so for the F40, the F50 and the Enzo. Urban legends. There are rules regarding the percentage of deviation allowed. The difference is more like 150 kg. The LF has been weighed in at less than 1600 kg, whereas the XX is circa 1750. If you are talking straight line, the LF is considerably quicker, as is the SF90.
Would have loved a Spider - have 16M while it may flex, the top down experience is worth any sacrifice. Enjoy it,
Show the weights - since you quoted it. There are no rules - please show the rules. Own a lot of older cars and they are a lot more hp than factory. Please show these straight line rolling races - you must have seen the XX VS SF90 agains the LaF
Around 3:30 - in 1ts video Let me know about that understated hp - the urban myth you stated SF90 is faster than 765LT - I'm sorry what did you say about LaF vs SF90 Let me guess - it' the tires : holding the LaF back
SF90 may be faster than 765lt but it doesn’t have the same feel so much more agile I would rather have sex with a 100lbs+ vs 300lbs+ same equipment one is more agile than the other so depends what floats your boat…thank god we have choices!
I have seen the Laferrari weighed in at 1585 kg, with my own eyes at Fiorano! The SF90 is about 1750!
ok. So SF90 is faster than the LaF straight line - XX will be even more so on track. XX runs with SF90 off the line. 1/4 mile - to counter that aero the hp is under stated to produce an equal 1/4 mile. We are good - you can't make an argument when I am showing you proof - show your proof of anything you state - a pic of LVP having sex with 100 or 300 pounds is not required. Last note the LaF from Ferrari in Fiorano states the weight you posted - no idea what you're saying.
Got the point - wasn't earth shattering to know a car feels special vs another to the driver. Not all drivers are created equal - moot point. Love track focus cars / outrageous. Drive G63 squared - results when engineers have control to test the limits vs CEO - bean counters build and design - mundane in comparison. Simplicity - when one spends a lot of money they want a special experience.
