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  1. davem

    davem F1 World Champ
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  2. Jack-the-lad

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    Isle of Man is this week. Balls-out racing even if it isn’t mano-a-mano.
     
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  3. johnireland

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    I don't hate Leclerc, I just don't think he's that good. He's good...but he's not as good as Max or Oscar or Lando or Nigel or Niki or Michael or Prost or...etc.
     
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    I think Leclerc is very talented and very skilled. He just has a bad car......and always has had a bad car since entering Ferrari. Compound that with bad strat calls from the pit wall, he's making the most of it. As time wanes, his fervor he once had at Ferrari diminishes his talent and skill.

    Vettel wrote on his Leclerc's helmet when both were at Ferrari and ended the caption-->"Don't waste your talent!" as if to suggest don't pin your hopes on Ferrari too much because Vettel knows full well Leclerc's passion and love for the Scuderia.
     
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  5. subirg

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    ^^^ At this rate, Leclerc will go down in history as another Alesi. A driver who gave his best years to Ferrari for no return. I hope next year proves different and Ferrari can deliver a proper car with the new regs. If they don’t, he should move.
     
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  6. furoni

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    John must be a big "Katie Hopkins" fan :)
     
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  7. furoni

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    lolololo, i would love to know anyone better than him in the current grid....i do not...i can accept the ones who will argue max as there are plenty of things that can sustain both options, but apart from him, just hate or ignorance can jsutify such a statement.
     
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  8. furoni

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    Being another Alesi is one of the biggest compliments any driver can receive...of course an f.1 title would go well with it...
     
  9. furoni

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    I wish Charles was half as goos as Alesi in the rain, that would really put him as one of the best of all times....but apart from that, he can look straight to most f.1 multiple champions.....and compared to most, he's not that bad in the rain, just not as good as jean, or Max, Michael and others.
     
  10. furoni

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    I understand you don't like Charles, but there is no need to insult him, comparing him to Lando.....
     
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  11. william

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    #261 william, Jun 2, 2025 at 4:59 AM
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    Alesi, 202 GPs, only one win ! :rolleyes: Alesi wasn't that good.

    Leclerc is better than Alesi was.
     
  12. Jo Sta7

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    Max is probably a definitional psycho but many greats are. He’s easily the best driver and it is not even close. To suggest otherwise because he’s a bit of a wacko is funny. Leclerc is nowhere near max. Piastri is significantly better than I expected him to be.
     
  13. furoni

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    I'm not sure, Charles in better in some areas, Jean is better in other areas, both are exceptional, and neither of them as had (so far) a acr that alowed them to compete for a championship....i still hope Charles will have that change, he's still very young, and becoming better by the year.
     
  14. furoni

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    Your opinion, theres nothing that shows me he's better than Charles, when they had similarly competitive machinery, i saw nothing superioe in Max, quite the opopsite many times. They are both mega quick, very gifted in car control, equaly agressive when fighting (Max tens to be dierty, while Charles is cleaner,...but no less agressive), bth are very inteligent ...Max is better in the rain, Charles is pehaps quicker in 1 lap....when both of them fight, we can see trhey respct each other a lot, something i don't see max in relation to other drivers, just as Michael did to Mika in relation for example to damon.
     
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    Furoni absolutely worships the Scuderia and its drivers, and that influences his judgement.
     
  17. bobzdar

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    Move where? The only car that's better right now is the McLaren. I don't see them moving Lando or Oscar.
     
  18. DF1

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    +1 and if Oscar were available Horner said he would take Oscar over Charles last week in the press.
    Charles have few viable options - maybe Aston but they need FA to leave. I could see Stroll wanting Charles but not at 30mil+ a year. He is paying FA 15. Charles is looking at a downgrade in both team and salary potentially, if and when he leaves. Mercedes not looking good either as they intend to have Russell sign a new contract this season. Antonelli has to meltdown before they give up on him.
     
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    Those are all the same or slower cars, so why would Charles want to leave, especially as he clearly loves Ferrari? The only clearly faster car is the Mclaren.
     
  20. DF1

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    Well FA ran out of patience as well. Desire to win. Thats why.
     
  21. furoni

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    On your part...but no worries, most media suffers from the same....it's called, look at the scores, not the racing...
     
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    lololo, I think that's a compliment to Charles, given Horner latest options in terms of drivers! I tell you what, Toto would pay a lot more than that for Charles.....
     
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    Of course i do, that's why i worship Alonso! or Hamilton.....oh wait
     
  24. william

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    Slower today, but maybe not tomorrow.
    McLaren had only a better car recently. Before Red Bull ruled, and before Mercedes.
    When was the last time Ferrari had a championship contender ? Are there any signs their 2026 car will be a winner ?
     
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