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First Post – Curious About Value of a Dino 308 GT4 With Strong Dino Identity

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  1. Fre-rrari77

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    May 31, 2025
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    Hello everyone,

    This is my first post here on FerrariChat, and I want to start by saying thank you, I’ve learned so much over the years from quietly browsing the threads. I’ve been a lifelong Ferrari enthousiast, and the Dino 308 GT4 has always intrigued me, not only as an underappreciated model but as something deeper: a car with a unique soul, a tribute to Enzo's son, and a driving experience that seems raw and honest. The successor of the most beautiful car ever made btw (in my opinion).

    I recently came across a Dino 308 GT4 that I’ve been researching extensively and I’d really appreciate your thoughts on what a car like this might be worth in today’s market, both as a driver and as a long-term collectible.

    Here are some key details about the car:

    • Euro spec, 1975 model year with F106AL chassis designation

    • Retains the original Dino nose badge

    • Has a beautiful Dino steering wheel horn button (yellow/blue enamel)

    • Features unusual but matching Dino-branded wheel center caps – understated script in silver/grey, possibly original or period-correct. I haven't seen these wheels before. No enamel, just a nice Dino script in the middle of the wheel. If anybody knows more about these wheels, please let me know.

    • Interior appears largely original and very clean with some light signs of wear.

    • Rear has Ferrari script and Cavallino, which I believe were added later as was done on so many of these cars.

    • Missing Bertone badge on the driver-side rear quarter?
      Which is another things that I'm trying to find information on. I seen over the years many of 308 GT4's that where offered for sale that had this badge missing? Is there a reason for these badges missing?

    • No confirmation yet on Classiche certification, but it looks unmolested.
    The car appears to have a strong Dino identity and hasn’t been “Ferrari-fied” too aggressively. I personally love the idea of gently restoring it back to full Dino spec, but I’d really value your expert opinions:

    • What would you estimate as fair market value for a car in this condition, assuming it runs and drives well?

    • How much does originality in badging and early Dino-specific features add (or subtract)?

    • Is there any extra weight in collector circles for retaining the F106AL and pre-1976 details?
    I truly appreciate your time and wisdom. If all goes well, I may soon be able to introduce myself again — this time as a proud Dino owner.

    Grazie mille,
    Frederic
     
  2. dyerhaus

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    Pictures and the chassis number would be helpful (especially of the wheels if they're that unique). I maintain a database (or register) of all 208/308 GT4s, which you can find at my website:

    https://308gt4.com/

    I might be a little obsessed with these cars.

    The most desirable of these cars are the Euro spec cars that still retain their Dino badges, and like any Ferrari, the more original it is the more valuable it is. On my website you can find the original factory color combo if you have the chassis number, the Ferrari script and Cavallino were definitely added, and I believe it should only have one Bertone badge—but I could be wrong about that. I have a US spec car and all US spec cars had the Bertone badge on the passenger side. However, a buddy of mine has a Euro spec car and his actually has two Bertone badges (one on each side). I honestly don't think any shipped with two Bertone badges, but I am not 100% certain about that. If the car doesn't have it, then it likely never did (that would be an odd detail to remove just one and leave the other).

    Value is honestly fairly hard to determine right now because the economy isn't doing so great. Cars that are absolutely pristine, concours level, are hitting $160,000 to $200,000 USD, really nice ones are hitting more like $75,000 to $130,000 USD, and driver quality cars are hitting $40,000 to $70,000 USD. But there's so many factors as to why a car fetches the price it does. Documentation, history, pedigree, condition, maintenance, originality, location, etc., all play a role in that. Regardless, the most value comes from the car being in "as it left the factory" condition.
     
  3. Fre-rrari77

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    May 31, 2025
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    Hi Dyerhaus,

    Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to reply, I can’t tell you how much that means to someone like me who’s completely new to this amazing community. Your response was not only helpful but also really encouraging to read.

    I’ve spent quite some time exploring your website and… it’s an absolute gem, especially the gallery of your own restoration. The level of detail, care, and love you’ve poured into it is incredible. Honestly, your passion shines through and it’s a beautiful thing to see, you should be very proud of it. It’s now firmly bookmarked in my GT4 obsession folder! :)

    Now (and this might sound a little paranoid) I hope you’ll forgive me for holding off on sharing pictures or the chassis number at this stage. The reason is simple: this car might (might!) be a dream come true for me, and I’d like to do everything I can to avoid jeopardizing that. I realize how ironic (or idiotic?) that may sound when asking a community to help value a car based purely on description but I hope you’ll understand.

    The car isn’t listed on any of the usual classic or Ferrari-centric platforms, but it is still searchable via Google if the chassis number is entered, as it appeared in an auction context recently. That’s why I’d prefer to keep it vague for now until I know a bit more or, fingers crossed, manage to secure it.

    That said, I am sharing two photos of the wheels (attached below). They caught my eye because I haven’t seen this exact finish or design before. They're subtle, almost understated, but I personally love them. I’d be really curious to hear if they look like anything you’ve seen in the Dino/GT4 world before — factory, aftermarket, or maybe even custom?

    As for the Bertone badge: yes, such an odd detail to remove, if it was ever there. I’ve noticed a few GT4s for sale without it, or at least not visible in the photos. This car has none, which struck me as odd too.

    As for me; I’m just a normal guy. No big bank account. Just a huge love for Ferrari that’s been with me since childhood. My bedroom walls in the ’80s were plastered with Ferrari posters, and nearly every shelf held a Burago Ferrari model, mostly 1:18 scale, except a few F1 cars from the '70s in a different scale. I really regret getting rid of them, not just because of the collector value they might have today, but because of what they meant to me. Ferrari was part of my identity growing up.

    Then came Dino. The 206 and 246 are, in my opinion, the most beautiful cars ever made. But taste is personal, of course. I first saw a GT4 in the mid 80's, owned by an Italian restaurateur and I’ll be honest, I didn’t love the design. I did recognize the Dino badge from “my” dream car, but the styling felt… off. Fast-forward a few years and I fell deeply for the GT4. Maybe because it was so unloved for so long, I took pity on it (lol), but eventually I began to see it for what it is: a gorgeous, soulful, unfairly overlooked gem.

    I’ve been dreaming of owning one for well over a decade now, but as appreciation for them (finally!) grew, prices climbed out of reach. Until now. I may have found one. It could be a unicorn — Dino nose badge, subtle Dino logos on the wheels and steering wheel, but it’s also possibly a barn find. There’s no service history after 2010. While it looks beautiful, stunning, I’m fully aware that mechanically, it may have issues and restoration might be needed. That would mean the purchase price is only the beginning, not the end, of the investment. I’m currently exploring how I could make that happen financially.

    The dream? To make it roadworthy again, then take a road trip with my (soon to be) 14-year-old son to Maranello. Just the two of us, no screens, just the open road. And once there, humbly ask the Ferrari factory, or local Maranello garage, to officially rebadge the rear of the car as a Dino again. A symbol of restoration, rebirth, and maybe even of a father-son bond. That would be the ultimate payoff.

    Thanks again for your warmth and for making this community feel so welcoming. I’m truly grateful and hope to be back with more info (and photos!) when the time is right.

    Warm regards,
    Frederic
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  4. Fre-rrari77

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    Now that I'm looking at those pictures I've uploaded, cropped and slightly reworked, it looks like there is very faint yellow shine where the yellow enamel would have been. Could it be just a regular Dino wheel center that lost the enamel coloring in it?
     
  5. dyerhaus

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    @Fre-rrari77 - It sounds like you and I are cut from the same cloth. ;)

    I understand about not divulging the chassis number, you wouldn't want anyone else scooping it up before you get your shot! Of course, I'm not in the market, so I wouldn't do that, but I'm sure there's those who would.

    Those centercaps are nothing I've ever seen, thanks for sharing a picture of those. They are actually very cool, but I'm not certain they're original. All the Dino centercaps are essentially plastic, not metal — which is why so many of them didn't survive or look terrible now as they didn't age well with use and time. For that setup, the centercap is simply glued in place on the hubcap. So they're easy to replace, as most folks replaced them with the cavallino badge. They would look nice with a yellow enamel and blue enamel for the script! But I did do a quick internet search and I found nothing on those. I'd like to know if they are original, but they do look to be high quality aftermarket pieces. I'll do some more in-depth research and see what I can find out (but don't hold your breath).

    To show you what the centercaps look like, here's a shot of the ones I picked up for my car. These aren't original, but they are EXACT duplicates of the originals. The guy who made this did exhaustive amounts of research and painstakingly recreated these to the exact specifications as they were originally made when he was restoring his Dino. And I have compared them against originals, they are identical. These are essentially clear resin over a Dino logo with an adhesive backing. You could scratch the underside and it would be visible through the clear resin. These would be adhered to the hubcap like you have, or to a plastic centercap mount to go directly in the wheel (like I have). Never mind the caliper, that was a shot I took a while back to ensure it would fit where I was placing it.

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    Much like you, I'm a normal guy and I don't have a huge bank account. I knew could afford the regular maintenance, which is primarily all you should really have to worry about with these cars, but… if you have catastrophic failure, be prepared to spend what you paid for the car (or more) to get it fixed. My Dino had a catastrophic failure last year, thus forcing an engine rebuild. The quotes range from $30,000 to $75,000 USD. Of course, a job like that for a car that important to me is not something I'm going to entrust to just anyone—I don't want to deal with this a second time! So when I get it fixed, it needs to be done right the first time and it will be done at the best shop for the job, the shop that will ensure I won't ever have to deal with that again. So far in the states there's two places I trust with that work, and both of them are on the higher end of the quotes (and fortunately one of them is essentially in my back yard).

    Don't be scared of that though! Like you, I dreamed of owning a 308 GT4 for almost my entire life, and when I finally got one it was everything had dreamed of and more! Nothing can compare to that feeling, it's almost indescribable. Your only regret will be that you weren't able to do it earlier than you did. And while I'm still waiting to get my car fixed, I don't regret the purchase at all. The beautiful part is that when the work is done, I'll have the best running and driving 308 GT4 on the planet! But until then, I at least got to enjoy it for two years before that happened (which actually makes it worse now that I know what it's like and can't enjoy it right now). There will be many more years to come.
     
  6. Fre-rrari77

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    Hi @dyerhaus ,

    Thank you so much for your kind reply, and being “cut from the same cloth” is a compliment I take to heart!

    I genuinely appreciate your understanding regarding me not sharing too many details just yet. I promise I’m not trying to be cryptic for the sake of it, I’m simply trying to protect what could be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. If things go well, I’ll be the first to “divulge all,” probably in an overly emotional post full of capital letters, exclamation marks, and tears of joy. :) And a bruised arm from constantly pinching to see whether I'm really not just dreaming.

    Thanks as well for the info about the center caps. Like you, I’ve never seen this particular design before, and that’s exactly what drew my attention. They’ve got this understated, classy vibe, and the more I look at them, the more I wonder about their origin. It’s like they add a little mystery to the car’s history, and I’m excited to investigate further. This Dino definitely feels like it has a story to tell… and maybe I get to help tell it.

    I’m really sorry to hear about the engine failure on your car, that must have been painful, not just financially but emotionally too. I totally understand wanting to go with only the very best care. These cars are more than just machines, they’re pieces of legacy, and I admire your dedication to doing it right the first time.

    I’m almost 48 now, and I’ve been a Ferrari fan for as long as I can remember. Dino came into my life later, but when it did… it just clicked. The elegance, the history, the soul, it spoke to me in a way no other car has. I’ve been watching the values climb faster than I could save (isn’t that always the way? lol), and I never thought I’d find one within reach. But now… maybe, just maybe, I’ve found that one car. It’s not perfect — it’s actually quite the opposite — but it’s real, and I feel like it has a story that deserves to be brought back to life.

    Some online digging revealed that the car has been at auction on and off since 2023 but never sold. That’s a red flag in itself, of course. The last documented service is from 2010, and it looks like it may have been stored shortly after that, so potentially for up to 14 years. So yes, we’re edging into barn-find territory. That said, a note from 2024 stated the car “starts and drives but should be restarted with care,” which gives me hope that the engine isn’t seized and might still have life left in it.

    I’m waiting to hear back from the seller and hoping I’ll be able to view the car soon to confirm a few things. Until then, I’m cautiously allowing myself to dream a little. I just hope that dream doesn’t get shattered too quickly.

    Thanks again for welcoming me so warmly into this community. It means a lot.

    Best regards,
    Frederic
     
  7. Sergio Tavares

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  8. dyerhaus

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    One thing I've learned about vintage Ferrari's is to never say "never". These cars were hand built, and I'm sure there were many times where they ran out of a part or something didn't go as planned, or whatever, that forced them to be creative or innovative on the spot. Maybe those centercaps came from the factory because someone was tooling around with something and thought they looked cool… or maybe they're aftermarket. With something that unique that no one has ever seen before, and it looks like it could be original, then… until you can find documentation about them, it's basically Schrödinger's cat. :D

    That being said, if I saw the car (in detail) I could point out everything about it that's known to be original from the factory or not. I know these cars very well, but yet I still see things I haven't seen before. If you wanted to share it with me privately, I think I could give more info, I can promise you I'll keep it 100% confidential — but that's totally up to you. I understand where you're coming from in keeping it confidential at the moment.

    As far as the car being on and off auction, the red flag that raises is the seller likely has a value for the car in his head that doesn't match reality (which could mean a lot of different things). Obviously it sounds as though it needs service, but definitely do your homework and find out everything you can that's wrong with it—don't assume anything. They're great cars when properly setup and maintained (which is why the right mechanic is so important), but they can be an absolute nightmare if something just isn't right. Get a well sorted one, or get it well sorted once you buy it!
     
  9. Fre-rrari77

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    Thanks for the reply and the input Sergio!

    Hi @dyerhaus,

    Thanks so much for your detailed reply, I really appreciate the way you framed things, especially the bit about Schrödinger’s center caps! That’s exactly it. If the car ends up in my possession, I’ll definitely be digging deeper into the origins of those wheel caps and will share whatever I uncover along the way.

    As it stands, I seem to be making contact with the right people regarding this particular car, and things may start to move quite soon. Because of that, I’ll hold off on sharing any pictures (publicly or privately) for now, not out of secrecy, but mainly because the offer I’m preparing reflects a true worst-case scenario. I’m assuming the engine and mechanicals need full attention, and I’m budgeting for that accordingly. In that context, even if the car has some unusual or possibly non-original features, it wouldn’t change much at this stage. That said, if the dream does come true, I’ll be posting more than just a few pictures… trust me! And I’d absolutely love to draw on your expertise later when I start figuring out where best to focus the restoration effort and how to bring it back to something really special.
    But any guidance on what a realistic price is for a project car like that is of course appreciated.

    Regarding the auction history, I don’t want to comment too much out of respect for anyone who may have placed a serious bid and might be part of this community. But I hear you. Doing your homework is clearly essential, and even then, there’s always that unavoidable leap of faith. From what I understand, there won’t be any opportunity for a full, in-depth inspection of the car or the engine beforehand, so I’m preparing for the worst and hoping to give it the best care possible if it does become mine. The responsibility feels huge, but I know this car deserves proper attention, and I’ll do everything I can to deliver on that.

    Thanks again for your insights and the generous offer of support, it means a lot.

    Best,
    Frederic
     
  10. Portofino

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    With any investment only proceed if you can afford to loose it . Never borrow money for a classic / hobby car .
    Classic Ferraris in my experience are more / less cost neutral in the sense the uplift in values covers the running costs when you get out .

    Look at it from this pov . Owning a classic F car is like free motoring compared to if you put the equivalent seed capitol cash into a new car , any new car inc a Ferrari ( worse still if on finance ) which will depreciate. Depreciation and financing in the car world are the wealth killers .

    The more “ ordinary guy “ you are compared to the “real wealthy guy “ then it burns your wealth greater .

    If you have ever had a boat or aircraft then F car running is chicken feed by comparison.

    Sure factory originality is king ( rightly should be ) , but there are plenty about . In your shoes I would go hunting in S Italy for a rust free car already recently restored ,there are plenty about plus it opens up the 208 GT4 market which tended to be least molested .
     
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  11. Fre-rrari77

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    Hi @Portofino ,

    Thanks a lot for your input, it’s exactly the kind of seasoned perspective that helps ground this whole experience.

    You're absolutely right that financing a classic is a risk and should never be done lightly. I’ve done my homework on the potential financial exposure and fully accept that this would be more a passion-driven project than an investment play. The idea here isn’t fast returns — quite the opposite — it’s long-term ownership with a clear vision for bringing something unique back to life with all the respect it deserves.

    As for borrowing: I hear your caution loud and clear. This isn’t something I’d be doing if it would jeopardize the household finances or future plans, it’s a calculated leap, not a blind one.

    Your point about depreciation and wealth erosion through new car finance hits the nail on the head. That’s actually part of the motivation, I’m trying to pivot from consumer-style car ownership into something that at least holds its value while delivering joy, community, and maybe even a creative outlet (I’m planning to document the journey).

    I agree that Southern Italy is full of interesting examples, especially rust-free 208 GT4s that may be undervalued. In my case, though, this particular car found me before I found it, I’ve seen it in person, and I’ve done a lot of research around it. The opportunity is real, and it may not come again. If it doesn’t work out, I’ll absolutely take your advice to heart and broaden the hunt.

    Thanks again for sharing your experience. I really appreciate it.

    Best regards,
    Frederic
     
  12. mike996

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    Sounds great but be SURE you are prepared for what will probably be necessary in both money AND TIME. Many years ago I purchased an E-Type jag that, from your posts sounds like it was in similar condition. I purchased it figuring on a lot of work/time/money. I figured wrong; it wasn't a LOT of work/time/money. It was an INSANE amount of work/time/money. In addition to the expected/known mechanical issues, it turned out there was a lot of rust and body/structural issues that had been nicely covered up with paint/undercoat. After 7 years of effort, I sold it unfinished to another enthusiast for considerably less than I had in it.

    Now, it's only fair to say that at the time my real job required 5-6 days per week and I was doing all the Jag work myself evenings and weekends. So, of course if you have the money to pay a shop to do all the work, it should go much faster. However, a good friend had an original Ford GT 40 that a shop was doing the resto work on and it was in the shop for a couple of years!

    I admire what you are wanting to do and if you are prepared, that's great. But I learned a lesson with that jag and when it came time to buy my Ferrari 328 in '08, I looked for one in the best condition I could find/afford! It has been essentially bulletproof since then with nothing required from the day I bought other than normal routine maintenance. Frankly, I would recommend that method - finding/buying the best car you can to start with. But again, if you are prepared and your specific goal is to take a poor car and make it a great one, that's certainly laudable.
     
  13. Fre-rrari77

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    Hi @mike996 ,

    Thanks for taking the time to share your experience, and wow, that sounds like a seriously hard-earned lesson with the E-Type. I really appreciate you sharing it so candidly. I think stories like yours are what every classic car dreamer needs to hear before jumping in.

    Your point about hidden rust and structural issues is well taken. That’s honestly one of my biggest concerns with this car. It’s been through multiple auctions, there’s limited inspection access, and I know I’m essentially flying blind to some extent. I’m budgeting as if the engine needs a full rebuild and the body will need professional attention, and even then, I’m aware I could still be in for surprises... loads...

    That said, I’m not expecting to do the heavy mechanical or structural work myself. I’ve got a few local specialists in mind if things move forward, and I’m already framing this as a multi-year journey, not a quick flip. The plan is to get it running well first (hopefully enough for a symbolic road trip to Maranello with one of my kids to bring it back to 100% Dino at it's place of birth, a symbolic re-birth) and only then tackle the deeper cosmetic and next-level restoration bit by bit.

    Still, I hear you loud and clear: the romantic vision can quickly turn into a slow-motion financial sinkhole if you’re not honest with yourself. I’ll keep your story in the back of my mind as a reminder not to underestimate anything.

    Thanks again — I admire the wisdom that comes from both the successes and the scars.

    Best regards,
    Frederic
     
  14. Zenobie

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    Hi Frederic
    I see you are from Belgium, me to :)
    CC Value, there is a 1975 308gt4 for sale in Bruges for 55000 € . Dont know if she is compairable
     
  15. Fre-rrari77

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    Hi @zeno,

    Yes indeed! Always fun to meet a fellow Belgian Dino enthusiast! :D

    Thanks for pointing out the 1975 GT4 in Bruges. I’ve seen that listing, it’s an interesting one for sure, though a bit puzzling. The listed year and some of the specs don’t fully seem to match up, and there’s very little detail on the car’s condition or history. At €55K, I’d definitely want a clearer picture before considering it.

    The car I’m looking at is quite a different story: likely a 1974 build, early production, and very much a project. No illusions here, it probably needs a complete mechanical overhaul, has some non-original bits, and may not even run at the moment, although can carefully start. But I’m budgeting for that worst-case scenario and planning a full, respectful restoration. Eventually, I hope to take it back to its original factory brown and bring it to concours-level condition over time.... I know that's dreaming aloud.

    So yeah, a bit of a wild dream, but it’s all part of a bigger story I’m trying to build.

    Thanks again for the tip — appreciated!

    Best regards,
    Frederic
     
  16. dyerhaus

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    @Fre-rrari77 - This is a fun thread to follow!

    When the shop told me how much it was going to cost to do the mechanical restoration on my car, I was a bit shocked. I knew it wouldn't be cheap, but I wasn't quite prepared to hear what he said — which was $70,000 USD. He also said something that really hit home: "If you don't fix it, someone will."

    That little statement from a master mechanical restorer spoke volumes. These aren't throw-away cars, they're worth fixing—which echos your frame of mind. It also said if I pass on fixing it then I'm giving away my dreams to someone else. But, he went on to share a simple, unsolicited opinion on the 308 GT4 as well: "It's probably the best driving Ferrari out there."

    Normally that second statement might not mean much, a lot of people will say that about whatever Ferrari they own. But the man who said that to me is a world renowned master Ferrari mechanical restoration specialist. He's driven and restored multi-million dollar cars, cars from all over the globe, true legends like GTOs, 250MM, 275s, 750 Monza, etc., you name it—he's fixed it, and his work has won many awards, like at Pebble Beach et al. Legendary and historically significant cars. Yet he told me the 308 GT4 is probably the best driving Ferrari out there. That says a lot. And I gotta admit, I'm fairly humbled that he would work on my car.

    Everyone will have an opinion on this, but I think you're putting your money in the right place. A project 308 GT4, like anything else, can wildly vary in price. If it's a complete basket-case then it could be well under $20,000 USD (there was one of those on BAT a couple of years ago that didn't even reach $10,000 USD). But, much like @Sergio Tavares noted - I've seen projects hit $35,000 USD as well. I think for a project, I'd be timid to go beyond that.

    To put it in perspective, I paid $50,000 USD for my car. Spent another $54,000 USD on paint. Spent roughly $25,000 USD in three years on some other mechanical needs (new exhaust, gas tank, carb rebuild, timing belt service, AC, etc.). And I'm looking at spending another $70,000 USD on my mechanical restoration. That's $199,000 USD in total. Keep in mind that mine is one that would likely sell for $140,000 to $160,000 USD right now due to its condition (well, the future condition after the engine is fixed), but only if I was at all interested in selling it. I know you're not looking at it from an investment angle, and I'm not either, but it's clearly a loss right now and could remain that for at least the rest of my life. But… that doesn't bother me one bit! The 308 GT4 is my passion, it always has been. I had one shot to get one, and I didn't hesitate. And if you feel that way too, and it fits your pocket book, then you've already won.
     
  17. Fre-rrari77

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    Hi @dyerhaus ,

    Haha, yeah, never though I was going to get this much involvement, I was hoping at a few guideline prices at best! ;P

    Thanks so much for taking the time to write such a generous and heartfelt reply, reading it truly meant a lot. That line your restorer said “If you don’t fix it, someone will” hit me right in the chest. It captures exactly what I’ve been feeling these past days: the weight of both the opportunity and the responsibility. It’s comforting to know I’m not alone in that feeling, and even more so to hear it from someone who’s walked this road with eyes wide open.

    Your breakdown of the restoration journey is sobering but also inspiring. You’ve made it clear that the numbers may never add up in a financial sense, but they don’t have to, because the real value lies in fulfilling a dream. That’s something I’ve tried to keep front and center as well. I know I’d be doing this for the love of the Dino GT4 and for what it represents — not as an investment, but as a long-term commitment and hopefully something to share with others through storytelling.

    That said, I have to confess that the dream could be over before it even began. I haven’t had confirmation yet, but all signs suggest that the car I had set my heart on might already be off the market. I had prepared what I believe to be a fair and realistic offer for a worst-case scenario project, and the stars seemed to be aligning, even my wife, who’s rightfully cautious about these things, was completely on board. But now it looks like someone else may have taken this dream on and I wish that person all the success in the world and hopefully they'll get to truly enjoy the Dino the way it's meant to be.

    Still, your message reminded me that this doesn’t have to be the end, maybe just the end of this chapter. The Dino journey, in one form or another, is still very much alive for me. I’ve learned more in the last few weeks than I ever thought I would, and that momentum won’t go to waste. Whether or not this particular car becomes mine, I’ll find a way to make the dream happen, and your words have helped me find strength in that.

    Thanks again for sharing your story and your support. I hope I get to repay the gesture someday, maybe with a photo of a certain Dino, badged correctly, parked in front of the factory gates in Maranello… ;)

    Best regards,
    Frederic
     
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    @Zenobie Wow, what a find! Thanks so much for sharing that link. That 208 GT4 is an absolute beauty, everything from the slim Euro bumpers to the authentic Dino badging is just chef’s kiss. The steering wheel, the wheels, even the patina of the interior… it really captures what I’d call the “soul” of these early GT4s.

    If my own Dino journey gets to kick off (still fingers crossed, could still happen), cars like this one are an inspiration and a reminder of where the road could eventually lead.

    Appreciate the share, it helps fuel the fire. :D
     
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    @Zenobie If you don't get the GT4 you are looking at don't give up!. I looked a long time before getting my 308. When I did I was not even planing on buying one anymore. I was watching one on BAT just for fun and in the last 5 minutes decided to bid. I won the bid! I was very surprised. It’s a driver that looks and drives great. Keep in mind you do not have to fix everything all at one time. When I got the car I had to do a belt service and sync the carbs but then I drove it for a few months. I just took care of the cooling system, nothing major but it was running hot in stop and go traffic (I am almost never in, that is when I found the problem). A good flush, new cap, thermostat, temp sensor in the radiator, and all is good. Next is a new fuel filter and carb rebuild. Next summer or maybe this winter I will do a suspension refresh. The passenger window is slow but you know what? It works good enough to enjoy the car some before fixing it. That will be next year project. I dread doing the window, I do all my own work.

    The point is some things will have to be addressed or you will damage the car driving it. Other items can wait. I bought my car (a dream sense high school) to drive the wheels off it. As others have said buy the best example you can afford. A cheap car no matter the brand can be a nightmare on your wallet.

    Good luck, happy hunting
     
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    Hi @LE06 I'm not sure whether Zenobie is after a 308 GT4 himself :)

    I’ve definitely been riding the emotional rollercoaster this past week; hope, excitement, cautious optimism, and now a bit of deflation as it seems the car I was after may no longer be available. I haven’t had confirmation yet, but the listing first changed status and then disappeared just as things felt like they were starting to move. So now I’m sitting with Schrödinger’s Dino: maybe mine, maybe not, and both states are equally stressful! :D

    Your story really helped me zoom out and take a breath. I love the way you approached your own car, prioritizing the essentials, then enjoying the drive, and letting the rest come in time. Too often it’s all-or-nothing thinking, but what you said reminds me this is a journey to be savored, not sprinted through.

    Even my wife (who’s been incredibly supportive of this mad dream) keeps saying: “If this one isn’t meant to be, the right one will find you.” So maybe this is just a moment to pause, reflect, and reset for the next chapter, wherever that may lead.

    Thanks again for sharing your experience. It genuinely helps. And who knows, maybe someday I’ll be the one posting carb sync updates and complaining about a slow window regulator. Fingers crossed. :p
     
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  22. LE06

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    LOL!!!! Yes I did mean it for you @Fre-rrari77. Sorry @Zenobie I was still drinking my coffee and not fully awake
     
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    That’s actually the very car I’m currently dreaming about and made an offer on! When you follow the link you'll see that the car is no longer available. There is still a sliver of hope that my bid has been accepted and they just haven't had the time yet to confirm.

    So your message gave me a mini heart attack for a second when I clicked on it and seen that picture! I thought it had gone back up for sale :D

    Still waiting to hear back, and trying to stay zen (pun intended) in the meantime. But hey, if it does work out, it’ll be amazing to say it even showed up in this thread without me sharing it.

    Love the encouragement and the fact that you're still scouting for others, despite already having a 328 in the stable. That’s the mark of a true enthusiast.
     
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    lol - no worries. Was it an Italian style coffee? :p
     
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